This guy casually kills 2 condors, 1 apache, and 1 tank in 3 minutes. Won't be long before people start mass complaining about them even though there is only 1 attack vehicle slot now lol. I personally think they're very fun and should be left alone but they do make the Nightbird and Hokum/Apache obsolete.

Let me start of by saying that I accept all the hate I will get, and I agree with arguments for nerfing stealth helis.However I think there are smarter ways to nerf them outside of a mandatory 30mm nerf. Try to read my reasoning but tldr is at the bottom. For reference I have played helis since Bad Company 2 Apache and Huey days. I will not be playing stealth helis anymore cause I want Huey to remain my no1 kill vehicle. Most of the arguments I see on 30mm are amazing. Its just plain stupid, together with anti-tank rocket in one match I had over 22 vehicle kills and almost 18k vehicle damage. When playing as infantry (and I do that quite a lot I have some T1 weapons also) I hate being killed by it and as a pilot, it doesnt feel at least rewarding outside helping my team a lot.Problem is that anyone can use it. Unlike first gun you unlock, 30mm doesnt need any high skill and most average pilots who just finished learning how to fly can shread anything with it. Easy fix would be to lower its splash-damage and to make it heat-up much faster. I would say a good amount is the one 30mm on russian KA heli has. On topic of lock-ons and Rao. Let me start of by saying that as both pilot and infantry, it feels much better to be taken down or to take down a heli with new TV rocket. **Because unlike lock-ons it requires skill.**Rao is fine as it is, as a team with only 2 or more good Raos and few lock-ons can completly shread my influence on an enemy team. Without good enemy Rao I had over 100 kills on B64. With good Raos or Wildcat (which is super strong if you are good tankist and force helis into bad situations) my kills drop to 30ish to 40ish and that is something I can almost always achive as an infantry player. However, while Rao is in a rly good spot, lock ons should get a serious rework. Let me state that I too hate camping helis who fly too high up and just drop bombs or spam 50mm on Hind. These are bad players who contribute nothing to attacking team and ruin games for defending team.MOST IMPORTANT THING in this post is ruining that playstyle. Lock-ons should get buffed by allowing them to go to the limit of the skybox.But, they should also not work up until the height of maybe 15 meters. This way you are forcing heli pilots to choose between 2 things. Either get destroyed by lock ons and Rao(who should also be able to hack high altitude stealth helis (not planes or other helis just stealth mode) or use skill to fly low to the ground and try to evade swarms of TV and normal RPGs.This way, you are forcing pilots to stay in Gustav range, while also allowing highly skilled pilots to help their team.Vehicles should require a squad and/or a lot of skill to handle properly. Stealth heli is nothing like that. Last but not least, separte at least planes in their own category. When good plane pilot is around only the best pilots can bearly survive. Thank you if you tried to read all of it, and not just spew hate on vehicle players. Vehicles are integral part of Battlefield and they should be strong in the right hands. However that should take much more skill than it takes now. tldr: -Serious nerf to 30mm: both in splash and cooldown-Buff to height lock-ons can target helis-Buff to Rao being able to hack high altitude transport and stealth-Nerf to lock ons by making them not being able to target rly low flying helis (this forces pilot to either die or be more skillful)-Indirect buff to gustav and tv by forcing pilots to fly lower-Separate airplanes into own category so they can counter other air vehicles My apologies for gramatical mistakes as English is not my primary language 🙂Enjoy playing the game and PTFO.

Guy just did 71-1 on noshahr in the stealth heliCompletely dominated the map.WTH is wrong with EA/DICE.Just take it out until its fixed.

If your objective is to destroy the average infantry player experience on one of the best maps of the franchise, mission accomplished. One would surmise that anyone with the most basic understanding of the current state of the game would know that one stealth helo per map is obscenely overpowered. With that knowledge on board, someone being paid a decent salary decides to make three available per team. Then someone in a management position gives the okay on this design decision. DICE has totally ruined Exodus Conquest for a vast majority of players. I often played Exodus Conq as well as Flashback Conq and both game modes ….WERE… a really nice change of pace. However now Exodus Conq is absolutely terrible with 3 stealth helo per team. The opening two minutes one team gains total air superiority and we end up seeing one team with no air and the other team with 3 stealth helos plus Hind/Condors the entire rest of the match. The ensuing slaughter is like nothing seen in any Battlefield game. It’s enraging for the team being farmed and is yet another 2042 detractor that’s bleeding players. The classic maps are infinitely more enjoyable with classic vehicle types and numbers. All we need are the Specialists on the classic Conquest maps for a nice variety. Any classic map with 2042 aircraft is utterly ruined. If it’s not glaringly obvious, the 2042 vehicle types and vehicle numbers formula since launch has been, by any quantifiable measurement, a historic failure. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. It’s not working.

@Zhukov211 DICE: We playtest our changes first.Also DICE: Here's a change that doesn't appear to have gone through any playtesting and is designed to make the experience unenjoyable, because we've ignored the months of complaints about overpowered helicopters, especially the stealth helicopter we brilliantly added to the game.*dances off singing You're Welcome*

@lionking7001 yes they are still powerful imho they need to remove the flairs so that there is only one defence mechanism not two

How long before DICE nerfs the new stealth helicopters?

145 Replies

protoman23
3 years ago
Taking out all opposing aircraft is exactly what you're supposed to do at the beginning of every match if you manage to get the attack aircraft slot. When you establish air superiority it makes the rest of the match much smoother for your team. It has paper armor so I'd say it's balanced.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
It is not 1 guy, it is 2 guys working together.
The gunner is a very important source of Anti air damage and EMP grenades that can disable the other vehicles.
The only reasonable complaint about the new helis would be the height that they can drop the bombs from. All the rest of their kit is intentionally having very limited range so they have to get closer than other aircraft.
PS after watching the video.
They were farming blueberries who were not even making any real attempt to fight back, they were only running away.
The cannon of the condors would had 2 shoted the stealth heli without even accounting for the 2 miniguns.
CPT_GASLIGHT
3 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
It is not 1 guy, it is 2 guys working together.
The gunner is a very important source of Anti air damage and EMP grenades that can disable the other vehicles.
The only reasonable complaint about the new helis would be the height that they can drop the bombs from. All the rest of their kit is intentionally having very limited range so they have to get closer than other aircraft.
PS after watching the video.
They were farming blueberries who were not even making any real attempt to fight back, they were only running away.
The cannon of the condors would had 2 shoted the stealth heli without even accounting for the 2 miniguns.
It still stands that it’s possible which is not the case with the nightbird or Apache/hokum.
AfRo_HoRmEr
3 years ago
@CPT_GASLIGHT If the enemies dont look at their air radar, its possible with every heli to wipe the rest of the air vehicles not very hard. Its the same like in BF4 you were able to do easily 200-0 with heli but if blueberrys were in there they maybe didnt even manage 1 kill before they got shot down. Not everything needs to be nerfed just because theres someone who knows how to use it....
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
@CPT_GASLIGHTIf all the enemies are as bad as the beginer bots, it is possible that I can get more than 100 kills in a round as infantry. That does not make me an amazing player.

The Nightbird can and will shred other aircraft at the right hands vs bad hands with those insane miniguns of it.
A good Apache/Hokun crew will also kill a bad condor that is not fighting back. just a bit slower due to the lack of a pilot gun unless it is a hukun which has that extra 30mm
direct3r
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@CPT_GASLIGHT the new helicopter is way too strong besides that you can easily dodge everything, just go with flares and stealth and switch between them... even liz rocket launcher is difficult to hit this thing with cause it's so agile.
Zhukov211
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@protoman23Instead it’s mostly farming infantry with 30mm cannons or larger like 99% of the rest of the vehicles in game.
Add to this facts that we don’t reliably hear the 60
ton enemy tank that’s 10 feet away, we sure as hell dont hear enemy aircraft most of the time until we are eating 30mm or 50mm from about 30 yards away. Reliable sounds in 2042 are atrocious and result in almost ZERO situational awareness when it comes to knowing there are enemy vehicles nearby.
direct3r
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
for me and my friends personally breakthrough is almost unplayable due to this chopper... it's always the same, this thing comes, kills 40 people atleast per match and you will loose the match like 9 out of 10 times for this reason.
I'm always trying to play RAO and hack this thing, but people found out that can insta-flare after hack and just rush away, so you aren't even able to hit one Anti Air Rocket, and after a short amount of time(cause the hack is not really long) he comes back and kills you, just frustrating...
Anobix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@direct3r wrote:
for me and my friends personally breakthrough is almost unplayable due to this chopper... it's always the same, this thing comes, kills 40 people atleast per match and you will loose the match like 9 out of 10 times for this reason.
I'm always trying to play RAO and hack this thing, but people found out that can insta-flare after hack and just rush away, so you aren't even able to hit one Anti Air Rocket, and after a short amount of time(cause the hack is not really long) he comes back and kills you, just frustrating...
For what it's worth, you can't flare after a hack, you can flare out of being hacked (as you receive a warning of a hack incoming). Maybe make it so that can't happen/no warning of a hack incoming?
Honestly, based on the video in the OP, I don't see anything wrong with that. They beat up people that weren't even fighting back and a tank that was already low on health.
Straatford87
DICE Team
3 years ago
imma say in the next game update. what do i win.