What if Tanks, Helicopters, and Jets also had limited ammo just like infantry does. From there you either need a certain vehicle that resupplies them (yes you can steal an enemy's resupply vehicle and supply your tank/Heli) or you need to go to your base or maybe certain objectives have ammo for tanks. This would balance Tanks/Helis/Jets by preventing them from Being OP and would make it more realistic. I'm Not saying to only let them have 10 shots, but make it more realistic and don't allow them to have unlimited ammo. The unlimited ammo allows for someone to tear through the map, by reducing their ammo it at least means they cant camp a certain area and means everyone has to play as a team. That's why I love Battlefield. It rewards team work and has everyone doing their roles.

@vash98mmwe had limited ammo in Battlefield V and it was more of an annoyance then anything and didn't do much for balancing tbh

@vash98mmHow about people stop trying to take away what makes BATTLEFIELD unique compared to other shooters because you can't handle it.The reason battlefield v is hated is because it's limited ammo system for vehicles is the WORST CHANGE EVER compared to previous games. It's the reason a ton more people are playing Battlefield 4 right now.If you don't like them than that is what Stingers and other Rocket Launchers and Explosives are for. If you want to stop them than you need to learn how to outsmart them.BATTLEFIELD is all about huge battles with Tons Of Vehicles. If you can't handle that than learn to counter them. That's what the new Solo and Coop matches are for 🙂

@vash98mm Nah, ground/air vehicles should have unlimited ammo again.Ground/air vehicles need quick enter/exit animations; none of this instant transmition in/out of vehicles rubbish anymore, especially when you're about to kill someone in a vehicle.When it comes to helicopters acting as mosquitos against troopers, troopers should be able to shoot and damage pilots through windscreens. That's another risk pilots should have to take if they decide to try and get too close and sweaty at troopers.Unguided rockets need to instant kill all aerial vehicles. Guided rockets need to take away 50% hp. They can activate counter measures and fly away so this is reasonable and balanced.Ground vehicles should have a bit more resistance to rockets than air vehicles, but not so much that they're OP to something that should be able to destroy them as intended.Everyone being able to carry rpgs/stingers, etc is going to be one of the best features the devs could've added - anything to improve the chance of eliminating scrubby vehicle spam (especially aerial) quicker the better.Really hope the devs do reasonable enough balancing when it comes to all of this.

@GRiPSViGiL wrote:@NoodlesocksThe BFV system is a good system to balance. I didn't mind the out of the way resupply stations...that was balance. With the way the new territory control system can be capped these stations will probably be more vital to controlling areas.The problem was that it made it most beneficial for tanks not to get involved with the objectives. There was no reason for them to; it was better to sit far away from the action, out of bounds or literally parked right next to a supply station taking shots of opportunity. When they ran out they can just drive off to relative safety where no enemy is going to bother going to cause it's not an objective.Compare this to 1942 that had a similar system, the resupply stations were always on objectives. It was always in the best interest for vehicles to help take and defend the objectives. To put themselves at risk in areas that the enemy may be lurking because if they didn't take the point and they didn't defend the objectives, they would be running out of ammo and having to return to base or to another flag to rearm.They also screwed up air resupplying by allowing you to resupply over enemy spawns so there was no more risk flying over enemy territory than it was staying in your own. Something they fixed for the pacific maps but never bothered updating the older maps with.It's a good system. Much better than infinite ammo six pump chump system they appear to be going with in 2042 but like many things in BF5, it wasn't very well implemented.

@RNM4010028 wrote:simple really..... get rid of jets....For some reason, and it may be just a way off wrong sensation I have picked up from your many many posts mentioning jets...But OK, now I will ask you very direct. So, sorry for being blunt, but:Do you have something against jets in the BF games? :o)

How to Balance Tanks/Helis/Planes

26 Replies

Icemangooo
5 years ago
@vash98mmwe had limited ammo in Battlefield V and it was more of an annoyance then anything and didn't do much for balancing tbh
vash98mm
5 years ago
@Icemangooo Sorry, I didn't play V. I preferred BF1 over V. Above all I play BF4 the most.
Noodlesocks
5 years ago
I liked Battlefield 5/1942's system where aircraft had to return to base to rearm. Problem with the system for ground vehicles in Battlefield 5 specifically is that Dice put the resupply stations in the weirdest of places, often in the middle of nowhere instead of on objectives .
I would have preferred that system with more sensible resupply locations over the 6 pump chump system that Battlefield 4 had and 2042 is apparently going to use again.
Jesse165
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@vash98mmHow about people stop trying to take away what makes BATTLEFIELD unique compared to other shooters because you can't handle it.

The reason battlefield v is hated is because it's limited ammo system for vehicles is the WORST CHANGE EVER compared to previous games. It's the reason a ton more people are playing Battlefield 4 right now.

If you don't like them than that is what Stingers and other Rocket Launchers and Explosives are for. If you want to stop them than you need to learn how to outsmart them.

BATTLEFIELD is all about huge battles with Tons Of Vehicles. If you can't handle that than learn to counter them. That's what the new Solo and Coop matches are for 🙂
RNM4010028
5 years ago
simple really..... get rid of jets....
DingoKillr
5 years ago
@Jesse165 Yes, stop taking away what makes BF unique just because you can't handle it. After all did you play BF2? Vehicles had limited ammo. Having vehicles with auto-resupply is BF.

BF2042 and free is the reason as people were told it would be like BF4 not because it is better. If it was better it would have kept better numbers than BF1 or BFV.

It would be nice if stingers or anything was to allow to actual hit vehicles. To often when they do, crying starts for nerfs fill the forums.

BFV allowed planes to instantly resupply the full load and allow pilots to repair anywhere, tanks could sit at supply points shoot hundreds of meters away while there counter Assault need to cross front lines to get with in range of tanks. Most BF had a range imbalance and supply rate issues.

Look BF2 you jets needed to fly the length of a runway at set height to get full supply and repair. The work for a OP vehicle.
Noodlesocks
5 years ago
@Jesse165 wrote:
@vash98mmHow about people stop trying to take away what makes BATTLEFIELD unique compared to other shooters because you can't handle it.

The reason battlefield v is hated is because it's limited ammo system for vehicles is the WORST CHANGE EVER compared to previous games. It's the reason a ton more people are playing Battlefield 4 right now.

If you don't like them than that is what Stingers and other Rocket Launchers and Explosives are for. If you want to stop them than you need to learn how to outsmart them.

BATTLEFIELD is all about huge battles with Tons Of Vehicles. If you can't handle that than learn to counter them. That's what the new Solo and Coop matches are for 🙂
Only BF3,4 and 1 has the infinite ammo system. Battlefield 5 was just badly designed.
YT_Positive
5 years ago
@vash98mm They usually try to balance it as much as possible so just wait and see, then if it is unbalanced they will change it since they get testers to test the game and if something has too much power they will change that.
Don't worry about it yet, since there are people that will test the game and give feedback to EA and DICE, and the testers know what they are doing so just wait for now
DingoKillr
5 years ago
@YT_Positive 555.
UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R
5 years ago
@vash98mm Nah, ground/air vehicles should have unlimited ammo again.

Ground/air vehicles need quick enter/exit animations; none of this instant transmition in/out of vehicles rubbish anymore, especially when you're about to kill someone in a vehicle.

When it comes to helicopters acting as mosquitos against troopers, troopers should be able to shoot and damage pilots through windscreens. That's another risk pilots should have to take if they decide to try and get too close and sweaty at troopers.

Unguided rockets need to instant kill all aerial vehicles. Guided rockets need to take away 50% hp. They can activate counter measures and fly away so this is reasonable and balanced.

Ground vehicles should have a bit more resistance to rockets than air vehicles, but not so much that they're OP to something that should be able to destroy them as intended.

Everyone being able to carry rpgs/stingers, etc is going to be one of the best features the devs could've added - anything to improve the chance of eliminating scrubby vehicle spam (especially aerial) quicker the better.

Really hope the devs do reasonable enough balancing when it comes to all of this.