Battlefield 4 is such a good game even today but is being ruined by the constant organised stacking to stat pad and pubstomp … There are certain clans who do this to ruin others games … If 2042 don’t do anything about these clans then 2042 will die off very quickly from toxicity
As a team player that is fine in theory but if you play the game the clans purposely stack up to ruin others games that is toxic
Btw. when I speak of clan stacking, it’s multiple clans stacking together on the same team.
For example if we have a match where 2-3 different clans, all with very good players, deliberately switch to the same team, it’s clear they’d rather be on the same side and have an easy game instead of having a more tough match fighting each other on seperate teams.
A whole clan stacking together on the same team is also problematic because, again, it creates an easy match for the clan members. I do understand the fun in playing together as a clan, it just typically ruins the match for the opponent team.
Saying “people should just learn how to play together” is fine on paper, but everyone who’s tried Battlefield knows it’s not so easy making randoms cooperate and play well together.
@DeeCay_DK_81 wrote:
@BinaryNinjano it wont... BF is a teamorientated game and encourages to team up and dominate the game.
Can I change the question around: Why wont you start playing together with other players?
Worst case scenario is you will be meeting players from different places and have fun...
You said it yourself. BF is a team-based game, not a clan-based game.
@BinaryNinjaIt's not toxic.
Forbidden Clan Tags or emblems are toxic, but Clans and Platoons are not. Even Team Stacking is NOT toxic.
The reason is simple, because Battlefield is a "TEAM based arcade like tactical multiplayer Shooter with a Battlefield themed Sandbox".
So you can't complain about people who are playing the game "correct" because they are playing as a team, playing with friends.
@CloudMcRip wrote:@BinaryNinjaIt's not toxic.
Forbidden Clan Tags or emblems are toxic, but Clans and Platoons are not. Even Team Stacking is NOT toxic.
The reason is simple, because Battlefield is a "TEAM based arcade like tactical multiplayer Shooter with a Battlefield themed Sandbox".
So you can't complain about people who are playing the game "correct" because they are playing as a team, playing with friends.
Seriously couldn't have said it any better than this!
BATTLEFIELD has and Always Will Be a TEAM BASED GAME where you do a lot better when you are playing with a good team and communicate with each other just like in the real militaries of the world.
If anyone here can't accept that than perhaps this is not the game for you so STOP trying to ruin the game yourself by turning it into something it never has been and never will be!
I think the real problem is the lacking team balancing done by the game, not that clans and friends want to play together. That’s only natural.
lol good one. gotta screen shot this for me mates.
this is why we can't have nice things.
you guys aren't as good as you think you are and when you face an actual team, you fold.
no, it's not toxic. god, you kids apply that word to everything to where it's a joke now.
absolutely in no way at all is a clan playing as a team in a pub room anything but exactly what BF is about.
you need to HTFU or take it back to bf4 and sit in operation metro where it's safe.
jesus beatboxing christ, you kids are gonna tank this game bfore it even drops.
I think folk are missing the point that the size of the maps and number of players mean the play is going to different anyway. On a server that is always full and clustered capture flags in zones, we're not gonna get round the map like we are used to if you are working with your squad. A clan of 10 players "invading" the match is not going to have quite the same impact.
How many weeks has it been since the reveal? How many posts have we had about problems with a game no-one has really seen?
@BASSMEANT_RAW wrote:this is why we can't have nice things.
Ha! Spot on! Let's all dumb down!
Yes. the amount of old clan mates writing me that they gonna buy the game and come back to play (after 10+ years) is scary.
IMO So many old experienced BF Players will join the game, join on their old clan mates.
AND
They are all familiar with Battlefield and know how to play it.
Not the Apex, Pubg, Fortnite player who has no idea who to support the squad and the team.
Make a game that is supposed to be centered around teamwork. Then penalize those who use teamwork. Genius. But seriously at most I maybe see 4 or 6 from a clan on in any match. Its not that big of a deal. Get better and find your own group to squad up with instead of punishing teamwork
its not that.... its the presence of helis and jets on every map with tanks... air vehicles ruin the game.... just having infantry and tanks is actually fun and more balanced. On Zavod I always go 40+/0 because I know how to use the ifv; no clan is stopping me on that map.... but i cant count how many times a cheap heli or jet takes out my tank after another tank or infantry has damaged it... its air vehicles that ruin the game, not clans....
@RNM4010028 wrote:its not that.... its the presence of helis and jets on every map with tanks... air vehicles ruin the game.... just having infantry and tanks is actually fun and more balanced. On Zavod I always go 40+/0 because I know how to use the ifv; no clan is stopping me on that map.... but i cant count how many times a cheap heli or jet takes out my tank after another tank or infantry has damaged it... its air vehicles that ruin the game, not clans....
Wait a minute.... won't your 40 victims on Zavod be saying " its tanks that ruin the game, not clans". You may be a brilliant player, but a 40/0 KDR? Always worry about team play when I see high kills and no deaths (but there's another thread going on that question)
@PacNbowls wrote:
@BinaryNinjaHonestly if you hate team work and being a lone wolf, the game is meant for a squad to work together
This is what I keep trying to tell them but they refuse to listen.
I'm done with trying to tell them the truth. Now they will have to learn it the hard way when they get brutally smashed by a team that is working together as they should be.
This is why 'the community' should not be listened to....
"It should take team work to stop tanks!"
"It should take teamwork to take out Air!"
"TEAMWORK SPOILS MY FUN AND MUST BE STOPPED!"
This is a weird strawman argument discussion.
1) “You don’t want friends playing together”
Of course friends should play together. But if a server is full of randoms except for 2 squads, each consisting of friends playing together, then the game should make sure to put those 2 squads on separate teams to make it fair for the randoms.
2) “If you just want to lonewolf it, why play Battlefield at all, it’s a teambased game”
Nobody said anything about wanting to lonewolf it. We’re talking about team balance.
3) “You’re just bad, git gud”
Maybe 🙂 But what has that got to do with making sure the game pits two reasonably balanced teams up against one another, instead of putting 12 good players on the one team + rest randoms vs. a full team of randoms. Makes no sense.
That's why we need rented servers, where clans can play in. I founded The A-Team in BF4, and we had our own rented servers. Some of the best times in that game were when other big name clans like DMI and tB would slowly start to bring in their players and it would turn into great battles.
Join a clan in 2042 (as long as they have it) and you'll see clans are a big plus for the BF series, not a negative.
