The hero stuff is gimmicky at best. Some more OP than others, some useless. The thing that frustrates me is with all the auto spotting, you can't just take two seconds to regroup. We're not asking for a mil-sim here. We want Battlefield. You know, jumping and diving removes the ability to fire for a second, you could actually USE CONCEALMENT and take cover from fire. This thing has zero concealment even on the old maps and forget taking cover. I get wiped out on the regular by someone on the opposite side of a rise while I'm prone and NO line of sight or be "leaning" out of a doorway shooting at an enemy and get railed by someone that was not in my vision off to the side that had no reason to be able to see you. Just off the top of my head, you have distance spotting using Q menu, soflam, shooting someone with an ability, a throwable gadget, a hero suit and oh yeah one of those robot dogs that can see through smoke, walls trees and mountains. How many times have you pulling into a building or behind a rise to regroup, reload, heal and seen "Position Revealed" two three times. And let's talk about being able to be seen and spotted through smoke. We're not talking about mil-sim here, but let's be realistic for Pete's sake.
@Echo6Echo wrote:The hero stuff is gimmicky at best. Some more OP than others, some useless. The thing that frustrates me is with all the auto spotting, you can't just take two seconds to regroup. We're not asking for a mil-sim here. We want Battlefield. You know, jumping and diving removes the ability to fire for a second, you could actually USE CONCEALMENT and take cover from fire. This thing has zero concealment even on the old maps and forget taking cover. I get wiped out on the regular by someone on the opposite side of a rise while I'm prone and NO line of sight or be "leaning" out of a doorway shooting at an enemy and get railed by someone that was not in my vision off to the side that had no reason to be able to see you. Just off the top of my head, you have distance spotting using Q menu, soflam, shooting someone with an ability, a throwable gadget, a hero suit and oh yeah one of those robot dogs that can see through smoke, walls trees and mountains. How many times have you pulling into a building or behind a rise to regroup, reload, heal and seen "Position Revealed" two three times. And let's talk about being able to be seen and spotted through smoke. We're not talking about mil-sim here, but let's be realistic for Pete's sake.
if you are prone you are and should be a sitting duck. as for being able to see you in a door way, you can't see their screen so just cause you don't think they should be able to see you doesn't mean they can't. you gotta be pretty close to get the name plate to appear. maybe you're just not as sneaky as you think you are. maybe there's a drone overhead maybe a half dozen other things happened....
@Psubond I think you missed my point....if I'm on one side of the rise and he's on the other, how does he see me, especially if I can't see him? Prone sitting duck, pretty much, but my point was, he should NOT be able to see me. The kill cam shadow usually confirms it. A vid would explain a lot. Same in a doorway. If I'm on the left side of the door jamb, shooting out towards the right...distance of let's say 50m and I have no view of the "left" side of the field, How can they see me? Again, the kill cam usually shows they had no right seeing me, again, I couldn't see them.
I know there are some concessions, I've played these titles enough to know that this is different than the others. You used to be able to take cover inside of a doorway. I've NEVER had this issue before with any of the others, so I'm baffled. I may take a few vid clips to show what I mean. I'd love to have the other side of the picture. Sometimes if feels like your player model isn't where you think it is...
@Echo6Echo wrote:@Psubond I think you missed my point....if I'm on one side of the rise and he's on the other, how does he see me, especially if I can't see him? Prone sitting duck, pretty much, but my point was, he should NOT be able to see me. The kill cam shadow usually confirms it. A vid would explain a lot. Same in a doorway. If I'm on the left side of the door jamb, shooting out towards the right...distance of let's say 50m and I have no view of the "left" side of the field, How can they see me? Again, the kill cam usually shows they had no right seeing me, again, I couldn't see them.
I know there are some concessions, I've played these titles enough to know that this is different than the others. You used to be able to take cover inside of a doorway. I've NEVER had this issue before with any of the others, so I'm baffled. I may take a few vid clips to show what I mean. I'd love to have the other side of the picture. Sometimes if feels like your player model isn't where you think it is...
if they were 50m away you did not get a nameplate from being in close proximity
and i will agree, the player model on your screen isn't always where it is on enemies screen
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The thing with heroes that I didn't like is the gadgets, like how fictional they seemed. I would have loved a true Battlefield 4 successor. No grand scheme, but just a modern shooter with many urban combat multiplayer maps with as much destruction as possible.
Server browser, persistent servers, tons of new destruction that would make Bad Company look like a kids toy...
