Imagine pay for a XBL or PSN subscription to deal with cheaters

Imagine pay for Battlefield, then pay for Xbox Live or PSN just to have some of the frustration that PC players go trought. And console players can't even use a keyboard/mouse to play the game in ...

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YourLocalPIumber

Seasoned Ace

3 years ago

@Kratos360Aurion I'm sorry but whats the point of linking BF5 video? It doesn't have cross play.

And just please stop with these posts. There are a ton of people playing on the controller and decimating PC players. How come?

I_DYN4MO_I
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber Oh come on. The BF5 link is clearly about the hackers ruining BF5. Don't pretend it's about crossplay. If you're selling these game pass subscriptions on various platforms you should support the games you're offering with a better anti cheat than it currently has.

The guy also has a point about crossplay. It brings a ton of balancing issues to the table that he has every right to post about.
- YourLocalPIumber
  Seasoned Ace
  3 years ago
  @I_DYN4MO_I Cheating has been a major debate in alot of online games lately. Even Activision can't keep up with them by pumping millions into Anti-cheat solutions. Its just the way it is these days. We're losing this battle against cheaters.
  
  Every major FPS today - CoD, WZ, Battlefield, Apex, CS, and even Overwatch 2 are suffering from major cheaters problems. Its not "Battlefield only" issue. Trust me, I've been playing WZ 1 during its first year.
  
  As for the "Balancing" issues of cross platform, this topic can be debated far and wide. Console players already get 25% recoil reduction + aim assist that has the ability to track people through smoke and walls. And there are a ton of people playing with a controller, even on PC and doing just fine. Personally I think most are using "PC is too stronk" as yet another excuse of being bad at the game.
  
  Besides that, as far as I know PS5 has a healthy non cross play population. Not sure about xbone
  - I_DYN4MO_I
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @UP_LordPlumberThere's a massive difference between BF5's and 2042's cheater problems. One games clearly supported whilst the other ones been left to die. It's a night and day difference. Like I said, If you're selling game pass subscriptions you should implement the same systems as your newer game and reduce the amout of blatant cheaters with as many hurdles as possible.
    
    I'll never be a fan of crossplay. Players can exploit it far too easily with control input emulators such as XIM and have all the advantages of both sides of the input debate such as -25% recoil and aim assist. Whilst crossplay reduces queue times it's something I wish was gone. I'd much prefer a server browser instead for a plethora of reasons including cross platform server performance.