Increased Harassment towards members of Dev Team
https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1657017752811450372
Forum Discussion
@Prof3ss0r_M1k3 yep, that's the way I take it. Like somehow Social Media, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and these forums can possibly lead to your account being banned IN GAME.
@Adamonic wrote:
@Prof3ss0r_M1k3yep, that's the way I take it. Like somehow Social Media, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and these forums can possibly lead to your account being banned IN GAME.
well, i don't use twitter, discord or reddit. if i did though and a company banned me from a game that i paid for because they don't like something i said or did outside the game on a platform not controlled by EA and not subject to EA EUA i'd probably spend the money it takes to invoke the arbitration clause out of principle
I am wondering if this was from the surveys? Someone took the effort to create and post it. Feels very defensive. They say they take constructive criticism, but then only listen to content creators and streamers, while the veteran players suffer.
if it comes out that they are policing outside of the game i'm done with dice and EA. permanently. i'm not playing much anymore anyway. i don't harass the devs, this is a principle thing. same reason i don't use patreon or paypal.
I'm hoping this would only be invoked if players in game were harassing devs and not what is talked about in third party threads.
Surprised to see this posted now. Even at its worst the EA Answers community is kittens and puppies compared to the darker corners of Twitter and Reddit (when filtered by new). Things seem far better now than a year ago
Consider:
- Dev's home addresses have been posted to Twitter.
- Someone was fabricating 'evidence' that one of the Reddit mods was a pedophile.
- Because the main 2042 subreddit was too 'tame' for some people a new hate focused subreddit was created. R/battlefieldboomers. I think Pappa Reddit had to step in on that sub, initially it was pretty unhinged. Human trash posting up the most hateful things they could imagine.
- During the Fawsi Mesmer news cycle all the racists came out on Reddit. 2042 was bad because brown people.
All of that over a toy. A toy that costs less than a tank of gas.
I think this DICE response is completely justified based on what I've seen.
@AngrySquid270 wrote:Surprised to see this posted now. Even at its worst the EA Answers community is kittens and puppies compared to the darker corners of Twitter and Reddit (when filtered by new). Things seem far better now than a year ago
Consider:
- Dev's home addresses have been posted to Twitter.
- Someone was fabricating 'evidence' that one of the Reddit mods was a pedophile.
- Because the main 2042 subreddit was too 'tame' for some people a new hate focused subreddit was created. R/battlefieldboomers. I think Pappa Reddit had to step in on that sub, initially it was pretty unhinged. Human trash posting up the most hateful things they could imagine.
- During the Fawsi Mesmer news cycle all the racists came out on Reddit. 2042 was bad because brown people.
All of that over a toy. A toy that costs less than a tank of gas.
I think this DICE response is completely justified based on what I've seen.
if that stuff was outside of game they have no grounds for any enforcement in game. is the conduct disgusting? yes. do they have the *right* to ban someone in game over something done on twitter or reddit? *NO*
there are other legal channels to go through for doxing, fabricating evidence etc. allowing a game company to kick people for stuff done outside of game will lead to people being banned for other reasons like "wrongthink" such as voting for joe biden or donald trump (depending on the perspective of the person with the ban button)
they put this in the EUA:
- Harass, threaten, bully, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another player or any EA employee or representative that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages or making personal attacks or statements about race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. We won't tolerate any unwanted conduct against any EA employee and representative because of their affiliation with EA in EA Services or anywhere else.
i do not agree to these terms. i do not haraass anyone but i'm not going to be judged on what i do off platform. have fun, i'm done with EA permanently. they go in the bin with patreon and paypal for claiming the right to tie my ability to use a product to something not related to that product
- @AngrySquid270 I had no clue about most of that. The doxing stuff should be dealt with and directed towards those that did it.
Just like anything, address the problem head on. A blanket statement doesn't solve anything, and at the end of the day, normally empowers knuckleheads to double down on stupid activity.
All the things you listed should have been addressed swiftly and directly.While some of those restrictions are valid, some are not and what some would agree to violate our constitutional rights of freedom of speech by restricting us from fully express our opinions on open public platforms..
