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@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
@RanzigeRidder21 soflam is enough.
Not when playing with randoms it ain't....
- MADMAC50K2 years agoSeasoned Ace@Man_iLoveFishing Lock-ons seem to have no affect on pro pilots - they just wait for the "missile incoming" warning before popping flares. Then they know they have 12 seconds to get away and replenish before continuing the farm. Good engineers don't bother wasting their very limited ammo on pilots that haven't already popped flares, as they know it's just wasting ammo. So pilots have a win win situation.... 
- Man_iLoveFishing2 years agoSeasoned Ace@MADMAC50Kpilots have win win situation as much infantry has. You die as infantry, you get back up after 7 seconds or you get revived. In other hand pilot survives stinger, yes. But it at least stops farming cause after flares needs to get away. I played haven for 2 weeks only with bird and many games were when i cant get out of base/dunes cause of constant locks/hacks and tgms. I consider myself one of the best pilots flying that thing (not in aiming wise, but actually handling vehicle in narrow places "aerobics" or the fastest getaway cover which might be a tree). And ram is hella toxic for bitd btw, ofc depends of team and situations. 
- UP_Hawxxeye2 years agoLegend@Man_iLoveFishing 
 It definitely depends on the team. Sometimes your own team works against you by wasting your own teams bird or vehicles.
 But I have had some really toxic rounds vs some T1 Nightbirds.
 On one of them I was even having 2 of my platoon working with me to try to nail the pilot the entire round with all we had, it did not helped that for a while some absolute genius in our team managed to lose our own Nightbird to enemy hands.
 It took many TGMs to finally nail that bird. I know that the stingers can deter for a while but unless many people do it, the good pilots will just fire back at the engineers as often as the immunity window allows them.
 Clip of the kill shot
- Col_Larsen2 years agoNew AceYou need Rao on the team. Perhaps you dont kill the bird but you stop him and make him run for cover. Rao hack makes him launch flares. Stingers are useless in this game unless you are waiting at the spot where bird recharges the flares. Kill little bird is Lis missiles or direct shots from tanks, tpg’s, recoils etc. Little bird is overpowered as hell in this game once you master it. 
- RanzigeRidder22 years agoLegend
 @Col_Larsen wrote:You need Rao on the team. Perhaps you dont kill the bird but you stop him and make him run for cover. Rao hack makes him launch flares. Stingers are useless in this game unless you are waiting at the spot where bird recharges the flares. Kill little bird is Lis missiles or direct shots from tanks, tpg’s, recoils etc. Little bird is overpowered as hell in this game once you master it. The issue is that the spot where the NB recharges its flares is out of bounds behind the sand dunes where infantry can’t come and wait. And this is not only on Haven the issue. 
- MADMAC50K2 years agoSeasoned Ace
 @Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@MADMAC50Kpilots have win win situation as much infantry has. You die as infantry, you get back up after 7 seconds or you get revived. In other hand pilot survives stinger, yes. But it at least stops farming cause after flares needs to get away. I played haven for 2 weeks only with bird and many games were when i cant get out of base/dunes cause of constant locks/hacks and tgms. I consider myself one of the best pilots flying that thing (not in aiming wise, but actually handling vehicle in narrow places "aerobics" or the fastest getaway cover which might be a tree). And ram is hella toxic for bitd btw, ofc depends of team and situations. Flying away to replenish flares only needs to last for 12 seconds. And there is usually plenty of cover to do so. The whole issue is that the balance is all wrong. It is too hard to take out the NB when getting farmed. If all we can do is scare it away for 12 seconds at a time, then the game is broken.... 
- UP_Hawxxeye2 years agoLegend
 @RanzigeRidder2 wrote:
 @Col_Larsen wrote:You need Rao on the team. Perhaps you dont kill the bird but you stop him and make him run for cover. Rao hack makes him launch flares. Stingers are useless in this game unless you are waiting at the spot where bird recharges the flares. Kill little bird is Lis missiles or direct shots from tanks, tpg’s, recoils etc. Little bird is overpowered as hell in this game once you master it. The issue is that the spot where the NB recharges its flares is out of bounds behind the sand dunes where infantry can’t come and wait. And this is not only on Haven the issue. Haven is definitely not the type of map that should also have cover out of bounds. 
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