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I'd prefer to not see KBM on console unless they overhaul the matchmaking rules.
I believe Apex Legends has the best solution.
Matchmaking pool A: Console controller users
Matchmaking pool B: Console KBM users, all PC players, console controller users partied with KBM/PC players.
Does Apex have native MnK support? Keep in mind tons of people are using strike packs and xim devices on console.
I’m on PC and I get killed by console players all the time. Even when I get the drop on them, but I think that’s because of lag compensation or something. I don’t think it’s because they’re on console, but something is up with hit reg/net code. It really feels like if you have a good connection at times you’re the one getting screwed. I’m a pretty decent player too in my opinion.
My point is that playing a good player on controller or with a mouse will be challenging no matter what.
Keep in my mind controllers are great for people with accurate thumb muscles, but for a lot of people that’s not the case. Controller are kinda one size fit most hands. With a mouse I can get something that actually fits my personal hand size and shape.
- 4 years ago
@RaginSam wrote:
@AngrySquid270
I’m on PC and I get killed by console players all the time. Even when I get the drop on them, but I think that’s because of lag compensation or something. I don’t think it’s because they’re on console, but something is up with hit reg/net code. It really feels like if you have a good connection at times you’re the one getting screwed. I’m a pretty decent player too in my opinion.
My point is that playing a good player on controller or with a mouse will be challenging no matter what.
Keep in my mind controllers are great for people with accurate thumb muscles, but for a lot of people that’s not the case. Controller are kinda one size fit most hands. With a mouse I can get something that actually fits my personal hand size and shape.I think you are conflating potential with fairness. The success of a few is not evidence of fairness for all.
I have nothing against KBM players (I played Battlefield using KBM for 10+ years) I just don't want to see controller players 'forced' to play against them.
- RaginSam4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@AngrySquid270Not conflating, but it is my experience that I get killed equally if not more by console players. Again, they have aim assist and it's not a competitive shooter.
Edit: You missed the top half of my quote btw. Those are some valid points as well.
- 4 years ago
@RaginSam wrote:Edit: You missed the top half of my quote btw. Those are some valid points as well.
I was wrong about Apex natively supporting KBM. It still sounds like Apex has a console only crossplay pool, but with the ability for consolers to join PC friends in the PC lobby. This is much closer to my ideal matchmaking setup than the current BF2042 situation.
Your other point about XIM and Cronus existing on console is just a simple 'lesser of two evils" decision. Fairness is not binary. Choosing the lesser evil does not mean I condone that evil. A console only crossplay pool is not perfectly fair, but it is certainly more fair than a PC+Console w/controller only crossplay pool.
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