There is a entire PVE audience that doesnt want to bother with multiplayer. These people spent upwards of 100usd to have early access. Every hour you arent returning normal XP and Unlocking of attachments for guns and vehicles to Solo/Coop vs AI is a slap in the face for those people. We paid almost double to have early access and start grinding and now we cant.
I don't think that solo/coop is as challenging as full MP, having spent several hours playing it myself. Lets face it, even on advanced the AI is still slower and more lamebrained compared to human players. Unlocks and level-ups may be appropriate in both versions but I believe it may be more fair to cap unlocks and level-ups earned in solo/coop applied to MP and that any further unlocks and level-ups earned in solo/coop apply only to solo/coop and any further unlocks and level-ups earned in MP would be applied to both. Face it, MP is more challenging and the rewards and level ups should reflect it because it takes more skill and luck to earn them.
@DaveTheBrave_USADo you know how much your "skill" and hard work is worth Dave? 9,99$ in the store per shortcut bundle. So idk why you think we, who prefer pve over pvp shouldnt be alowed to unlock our stuff in solo/coop because at the end of the day buddy DICE doesnt give 2 sh its about your skill and hard work and people are gonna buy the shortcut bundles and get instant full unlocks 🙂
@Lunatlque wrote:@DaveTheBrave_USADo you know how much your "skill" and hard work is worth Dave? 9,99$ in the store per shortcut bundle. So idk why you think we, who prefer pve over pvp shouldnt be alowed to unlock our stuff in solo/coop because at the end of the day buddy DICE doesnt give 2 sh its about your skill and hard work and people are gonna buy the shortcut bundles and get instant full unlocks 🙂
I'm not saying you should not unlock in solo. I'm just saying unlock everything, fine but the higher level stuff unlocked in solo should stay in solo.
uhh hey man it's a Battlefield game not a Chinese free to play game. There's already level 40-60 ANYWAY so who gives a flyin * if full xp is awarded?? PVE players don't even touch multiplayer anyway if you're so worried you'll see someone use the same skin as you!! The marketing campaign promised progression would be the same in all 3 modes, no cap included no xp limit none of it.
@DaveTheBrave_USA wrote:I don't think that solo/coop is as challenging as full MP, having spent several hours playing it myself. Lets face it, even on advanced the AI is still slower and more lamebrained compared to human players. Unlocks and level-ups may be appropriate in both versions but I believe it may be more fair to cap unlocks and level-ups earned in solo/coop applied to MP and that any further unlocks and level-ups earned in solo/coop apply only to solo/coop and any further unlocks and level-ups earned in MP would be applied to both. Face it, MP is more challenging and the rewards and level ups should reflect it because it takes more skill and luck to earn them.
It only takes more time.
The one resource that you never get back.
Perhaps if you feel that a long grind on MP is justified when it will eventually be on sale for 9,99 then your time is cheaper than ours.
@DaveTheBrave_USA wrote:I don't think that solo/coop is as challenging as full MP, having spent several hours playing it myself. Lets face it, even on advanced the AI is still slower and more lamebrained compared to human players. Unlocks and level-ups may be appropriate in both versions but I believe it may be more fair to cap unlocks and level-ups earned in solo/coop applied to MP and that any further unlocks and level-ups earned in solo/coop apply only to solo/coop and any further unlocks and level-ups earned in MP would be applied to both. Face it, MP is more challenging and the rewards and level ups should reflect it because it takes more skill and luck to earn them.
Fairness? To who? The customer? Why should anyone that bought this for the advertised features of "all inclusive progression any mode any game" accept anything but that full ability to do so.
You think a handicap gamer with limitations might not deserve to play and practice to go back and forth ect. Some people won't ever get past a basic beginner setting. But maybe after a while they figure out how to overcome and adapt and decide to join the circus in MP.
WHY should they have to start over with nothing no mastery unlocks nothing? Why should any of it be separated? It wasn't marketed that way. At the end of the day anyone that isn't behind this is worried about 1 thing.
Those guys in PVE might unlock every item in a few months and then come hand people their * in MP. THAT is the only argument for anyone that doesn't fully support this issue without downgrades or limits or reductions. Or bargains ect.
Anyways rant over * like ea is doing just really pisses me off. I have a buddy with 1 arm he drives the vehicles and I do the foot work sorry but I'm pissed
@justinwessig wrote: At the end of the day anyone that isn't behind this is worried about 1 thing.Those guys in PVE might unlock every item in a few months and then come hand people their * in MP. THAT is the only argument for anyone that doesn't fully support this issue
NO actually, that's not at all what they think. They know we're not coming over there, and even if we do they understand most of us PvE'ers are not good enough to cause them much grief.
What DOES bother them, however, is that they feel we actually don't DESERVE to play on their "turf" (competitive MP) with the better weaponry unlocks because they feel we didn't truly earn it (and they DID), since most of would be earning the unlocks against bots. To us this sounds silly, but to them it sounds like reasonable behavior.
You see, you have to understand their mentality is such that they take all their gaming so seriously that it actually makes them think that winning at games makes them real winners at life. They are a tad delusional and are out of touch with the fact that this is just a game. But to people like this, the game/s takes major precedence in their lives as they tend to place too much emphasis on games and let it effect how they actually feel about themselves and their competitors. It's a real mental illness and can really be a serious problem for many so I'm not making fun here. They need help.
...but anyway, I digress.
