Lis is locked out of all but 2 class gadgets
How is it ok that lis only has access to 40%of her class gadgets. Yea. Whe is being used by default but only because crawford and boris are F tier specialists with useless gadgets that are specific ...
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The hyperbole surrounding her being OP is laughable, ok sure she can one-shot the Littlebird and the stealth helo, but she is nothing more than a mild annoyance to every other vehicle in the game.
She can't even take out a jeep unless it's stupid enough to stay still for TWO shots!
Engineers right now are almost a throw away class, with little to no offensive capabilities other than Lis's "ability" which due to its extremely long reload time makes her meh at best.
Also, unless you get the "vehicle destroyed" shot you get no score, her "Lissle" is basically a "finisher" shot not a viable offensive tool.
If you fire off both of her shots, you're basically done as an offensive engineer for the next few minutes, she needs access to more offensive tools i.e., more rockets period.
And Crawford and Boris in their current form aren't even worth using at all, Rao was the obvious choice (to literally EVERYONE other than EA/Dice it would seem) for engineer and the only real viable specialist for an offensive engineer.
@Ironhead841 wrote:The hyperbole surrounding her being OP is laughable,
I never said she was OP, pilots say that. I believe vehicles and Lis were in a good place prior to the patch. The patch upended the cart.
ok sure she can one-shot the Littlebird and the stealth helo, but she is nothing more than a mild annoyance to every other vehicle in the game.
Currently Yes. That being said, giving her gadget missiles would make her more then an annoyance.
She can't even take out a jeep unless it's stupid enough to stay still for TWO shots!
True, 3 shots are needed to destroy the vehicle, 1 shot is needed to kill the driver. Just hit the window.
Engineers right now are almost a throw away class, with little to no offensive capabilities other than Lis's "ability" which due to its extremely long reload time makes her meh at best.
Lis could use more gadgets. Med Pen, ammo crate, what ever else. That being said, more rockets is not her answer.
Also, unless you get the "vehicle destroyed" shot you get no score, her "Lissle" is basically a "finisher" shot not a viable offensive tool.
True, I have T1d Lis. I have had 400+ final blows. I know how many more it took. That being said, her non killing rocket is still an offensive tool. Her ability to spy damaged vehicles and SOFLAM them is valuable and plays into her killing blow prior to the changes. Now however, nobody else but engineers, a low played class, has missiles. The answer isnt to arm Lis, but to arm the Assault class with rockets too. They are assault after all.If you fire off both of her shots, you're basically done as an offensive engineer for the next few minutes, she needs access to more offensive tools i.e., more rockets period.
Again, the game design for Lis is not to be the sole destroyer. The fix is to give Assault the rockets.
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I'm just going to have to respectfully disagree.
Boris and Crawford are F-tier specialists' (always have been really) so once their arsenal of rockets is expended all they can do is make scary faces at armor or aircraft because their anti-vehicles "abilities" are essentially useless.
Try them for yourself in Solo/Co-op and see how much damage the turret or the mini-gun ACTUALLY does to even lightly armored vehicles.
As I said already Lis' downfall is how long it takes to reload her "Lissiles" if you pop both of those off ya might as well go hide somewhere, get up, grab a cup of coffee maybe make a sandwich and by the time you get back she might be ready to get back into action.
If the Engineer Class is actually meant to be the infantryman's answer to combating vehicles, they need better tools.
- @Ironhead841 All I see on Australian servers is a team that has anywhere between 30 and 40% engineers running around.
So it appears to me that players are flocking to the engineer class.
Lis players can switch to Boris or Crawford if they want to use a different rocket. It's not a tough decision for them to make, they still keep their favourite guns and grenade.How about letting player chose which launcher lis gets as her class gadget with the same cooldown mechanic?
