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@xpaydayx and because Rao is so OP, everybody is playing him.. oh I forgot, nobody is doing it.But hey, do you know, what everyone is using? BSV and stealth helicopter. And they have godlike stats! And Rao? Nothing, he stays at the bottom of the chart, because he is so OP.
I mean, this range of his hacks, what is it... 150m? And the helicopter pilot gets the information on the HUD, where he is standing (so he can shoot him down after the hack). As pilot, you even get a warning, so you can flare and run. So unfair, this Rao...
Next you can say, Dozer is OP, he can just shield the guns!
- Captain_Tachi3 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
@xpaydayx Ok, you stand by your "Rao is OP". Without any arguments. Hard to discuss on this basis.
Rao ia at the moment the only counter to the stealth helicopter, except Liz rockets as infantry. Rao's hack only disables the counter measures (you can use it before getting hacked) and to shoot. You can just fly away, nobody can do anything against it, then come back or just at another point, where no Rao is present. On the other side, the stealth helicopter can onehit kill groups of people through bombs and 30mm canon. If Rao is not present, it is very hard to counter it (hard to hit with M5), even harder, when you are getting one shot.
Additional, while Rao is hacking, he is defenseless against everything.
If Rao would be OP, I would expect high vehicle kill numbers (20 kills per round), or that helicopters are completely useless the round he is present. But that is not the case. More likely, there are stealth helicopter pilots with massive kill count. Also not the majority, but while it is possible for the pilots to get insane stats, for Rao, it is not (not because of his hacking).
So if Rao's hacking would be nerfed (should be the case, if it is OP), what would then the counter to stealth helicopters? Everybody has to rely on luck, by firing the M5 to kill it? And if Liz is the argument, everybody has to be forced to play her, just to do anything?
For me the fact is, if something has such a strong defense, as the stealth helicopter, it need weaknesses, other helicopters don't have. The 30mm canon is very strong, so are the bombs. There is no disadvantage... For example no flares or that it get killed by one rocket, instead of two. And to stay at the topic...
To make the Soflam work against stealth helicopter is a great idea, it supports teamplay and is a counter, every class can use, so you are not forced to play Liz or Rao.
- Psubond3 years agoLegend
make rao's hack range for helos the same as the stinger. that'll do a lot to temper the stealth bomber spam
- xpaydayx3 years agoRising Hotshot@Captain_Tachi 1. I was standing by my comment that the 30mm is op and remains the sole issue lol
2. based on your reasoning you're saying that if something isn't getting kills then it's not op, can you explain the spawn beacon nerf? Just because you're not absolutely raking in kills with a gadget/vehicle/specialist doesn't mean it shouldn't be fine-tuned.- Captain_Tachi3 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
@xpaydayx you are right, it doesn't have to get kills to be too strong. Fine tuning is always good. I just don't see, why it is OP, maybe you could underlay your words with some arguments. I see, that Roa's ability is strong against helicopters, but not so strong against the stealth helicopter. And what would your solution or change to Rao's OP'ness? Shorter range, shorter duration, delete the whole character? And yes, the 30mm cannon should be the same as the one on the other helicopters... Or even weaker, because, as I said, when the helicopter has such a strong defense, it needs to get some kind of weakness, at the moment it is just superior to the hokum and apache in every way.