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3 years ago

MAPS lacking Armored Air/Ground vehicles

Please don't tell me this is the direction you guys are going with on vehicle balances........ (Kaleidoscope) -2 Armored tanks per team and only 1 attack aircraft per team on 128 conquest?!? -This...

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Necromantion

Seasoned Hotshot

3 years ago

@caroliro wrote:
I dont think its about not liking vehicles from infantry side. They haven’t provided adequate tools for infantry to defend themselves. Lock rockets break lock way too easily or for no reason and range is way too short. Non lock rockets are too slow and do paltry damage if the do hit. Less vehicles is a misguided solution to the true problem!

It most certainly is. There are active individuals on this forum even who have explicitly said they dont want to have to swap their loadouts to deal with vehicles... despite that always having been the requirement in BF games previously if you werent equipped to deal with something. And we even have a specialist that allows it to happen without dying/respawning.

Vehicles in this game are, and have always been, structured around squad based game play. And the multiple nerfs already to heliocopters because people cant be bothered to pick up a stinger, spawn an aa or use a soflam and an M5 is just absurd and was totally unnecessary.

Now we have a slower and shared spawn on these vehicles and they're totally inaccessible.

I used to be able to get attack helios a few times a game, now i cant even get one more than 1-2 times across two or three maps.

thepuppetmaster

3 years ago

@Necromantion @Joe234567891011

Same here man this is completely OBSURED! Took out the fun of All out Warfare Conquest!

All they had to do was just add more cover to maps not decrease vehicle pool and increase cool down timer......

I'm also waiting endlessly to be able to spawn into a tank or helicopter/jet... Before 4.0 it was decent and now its horrible... Whats worse they have plans to lower the vehicle count even more..

Think I'll be heading back to BF5 strategic conquest

Necromantion
Seasoned Hotshot
3 years ago
@thepuppetmaster7 wrote:
@Necromantion @Joe234567891011
Same here man this is completely OBSURED! Took out the fun of All out Warfare Conquest!
All they had to do was just add more cover to maps not decrease vehicle pool and increase cool down timer......
I'm also waiting endlessly to be able to spawn into a tank or helicopter/jet... Before 4.0 it was decent and now its horrible... Whats worse they have plans to lower the vehicle count even more..
Think I'll be heading back to BF5 strategic conquest
Lower vehicle count again? LOL
- thepuppetmaster
  3 years ago
  Clear Skies... Wheres all the air vehicles?
  - thepuppetmaster
    3 years ago
    Trailer (jet on jet combat, attack chopper, at least 3 air vehicles on one screen) vs what we got (clear skies)
techb00mer
New Vanguard
3 years ago
@thepuppetmaster7 wrote:
@Necromantion @Joe234567891011
All they had to do was just add more cover to maps not decrease vehicle pool and increase cool down timer......
From my understanding, this is something that is already in the works (adding more cover etc). I would be surprised if things stay as they are, but it is probably worth noting that it is easier to reduce the # of vehicles compared with reworking every map and adding cover.
My guess, this is a temporary workaround to ensure maps aren't unbalanced while they create opportunities for infantry to find cover.
Psubond
Legend
3 years ago
@thepuppetmaster7 wrote:
@Necromantion @Joe234567891011
Same here man this is completely OBSURED! Took out the fun of All out Warfare Conquest!
All they had to do was just add more cover to maps not decrease vehicle pool and increase cool down timer......
I'm also waiting endlessly to be able to spawn into a tank or helicopter/jet... Before 4.0 it was decent and now its horrible... Whats worse they have plans to lower the vehicle count even more..
Think I'll be heading back to BF5 strategic conquest
so basically you do not help your team win cause you are in the spawn screen camping vehicles?
- thepuppetmaster
  3 years ago
  Yes, @Psubond
  I'm in the spawn screening waiting at least 10-15 min for an armored/attack vehicle slot to open so I can use one. Some rounds I can't even get one and forced to play infantry. Because my goal in this game is to have fun. And vehicles is part of that fun and why I buy every single battlefield game. If dice didn't make this horrid change and better balanced vehicle count/type I would be able to spawn into one and help my team out. And this isn't some major league tournament. Winning is the least of my worries. Whats important for me is to enjoy the game and All out warfare conquest is where I enjoy it and why I bought the game. As it currently stands I am disappointed with having 1-2 aircraft slots (jets/helis) and 2-3 tank slots (tank,AA,MAV). Its near impossible to get one!!