CONDOR with 2 minigun is overpower he can fly chase my jet with after burner and I can't do anyting so I tried to fly around the map but not help. minigun still hit my jet :edit you can use repair tools while flying condor 😞:edit2 I got a tiny update to CONDOR lover and JET hater hope you be happy❤️❤️💕

This is 100% legit a problem, however I can see how if you have not experienced this how it may be hard to understand at first. Expanding on OP here are the issues:Even with Afterburner jets cannot effectively escape Condor in flight mode. Auto repair cannot kick in as trickle damage keeps resetting the timer.Condor miniguns are NOT the same as their ground counterparts. They do excellent damage vs jets, have huge range (650m) and a really forgiving damage drop offFurthermore unlike jet cannons which are fixed, Condor Miniguns have free movement meaning BOTH can be brought to bear on jets (which are large & easy to hit targets) and the TTK is HEAVILY in favor of the CondorJet Fired AA missiles have poor damage against TRN heli's (15 for IR missiles and 8.6 for Radar Missile)25mm is UP - its damage drop off starts at only 100m and ends at 300m which is crazy (for comparison the 30mm damage dropoff starts at 400mThe issue is NOT that the Condor has lethality against jets, but rather that it's lethality is offensively based, leaves no room for counterattack AND it breaks the conventions of the roles of each vehicle: Jets are anti vehicle (primarily anti air) while Condors are heavy transports. This is also not teamwork beats X issue. Teammwork is not a blank check that can be used to excuse imbalances in the game. Condors are not meant for air superiority and no amount of teamwork should circumvent the gameplay mechanics.Condor should be able to punish jets that get too close, but they should not have the extreme reach they have now. The miniguns are defensive weapons and their damage dropoffs and range should be adjusted to reflect that. The jet and heli fired IR AA missiles should be bumped up to 20 dmg per missile while the Radar missiles should do 15 per shot. The 25 MM needs a tiny boost to damage but much much more importantly it needs a boost to its damage dropoff which is silly low right now. Maybe the Condor needs a slight slow down too.These changes will bring fairness and symmetry back to the relationship. Condors can still wreck jets who get into close combat ranges, but their ability to prowl and perform air superiority will vanish.

I have to agree with @Poor-JET and @rainkloud on this one. Condor/hind are quickly becoming to go to for winning teams. For those that say "this game isn't a team game so no one is going to help a condor pilot". I literally shout out in team chat "hey need 3 guns and repair" and boom. I have people literally killing themselves to jump in. I am an experienced pilot in this game which makes the condor all that more devastating. The VTOL on the Condor is also faster than the VTOL on the Panther. So not only can I chase vehicles but when locked by an enemy such as a felon I can easily VTOL and get behind them. The Condor / Hind are surprisingly maneuverable and dangerous. As a Fighter Pilot, I will take IR's and 30 mm just for the extra damage. However I do one pass bring them down to about half health and before I can turn to make a 2nd pass to kill it. The damage is either repaired or all guns are slamming me. It is very very hard to take down a Hind or a Condor with at least 1 repair in the vic. I have even seen them with one repair and one on AA. Now not only are you facing 2 miniguns and a 50mm cannon. But you are facing an AA locks from the thing while having to fight off other AA locks. Not only is the range hella far, but its range of motion too. The only effective "safe" approaches to Condor's / Hinds is to dive bomb them. Next is the left or right side (hoping they have no AA). Attacking from the back is extremely dangerous and attacking from the front is almost suicide. Both hinds and condors also suffer from the same "missile orbiting bug" that choppers have. Where you get a definite lock then launch your missile only to have it circle your target and detonate in the air doing no damage. A good condor/hind team takes 2 fighter jets to beat or a condor/hind and a fighter. This also requires attacking from different angles to split the condor's attention. Even THEN I have as a Condor pilot had a 2 night birds and a panther on me and survived. I have also had to orient all of our air support through chat to target a single condor/hind that has a full team. That doesn't even take into consideration its ground support potential. 50mm cannons wreck armor, and the turrets shred infantry. If you are a good condor pilot you know how to level the vehicle or do conduct pylon turns to maximize damage and reduce threat to the aircraft. Simply put, the vehicle has too much speed, too much range, and too much firepower. Something has to be taken away. I am all for the damage drop off of turrets being increased. I also think their turrets should overheat as fast as the 30mm on jets. The vehicle was meant for transpo which means those guns are intended to defend from ground targets anyways. For now however they took the concept of a C-130 spooky gunship and the Osprey and made a nightmare. Screw the name condor, the nightmare is more fitting.

@Trokey66 The hard part is having the suitable pilot.The pilot needs to>Be willing to be the dude who will not be getting kills but setting up others for kills or to offer spawn point. aka to get the transport instead of the nightbird>Be capable as a pilot>Caring enough about the transport to upgrade it so it can have the 50mm autocannon too.If the pilot can be good enough, the gunners can generally do some decent work. But getting dedicated repair is very unlikely.

@rainkloudAll you do here is asking for jets to be invincibles ... How does a littlebird escape jets lock on madness ? How does an apache outrun a jet ? How does a 120mm tanks escape the jets Air to ground lockon that hits even when using the smoke and refresh in few seconds before they get the smoke back ? How does a soflam M5 rocket can hit a jets running away ?Any average jets pilots can escape pretty much anything but other jets and the condor can somewhat chase them wich is a good thing ..Jets should be Nerfed really bad because they have way to much +++ and not enough --- at all.. Not being able to farm infantry isnt a Negative to me ..

@Poor-JET Not to be mean but jets are op.

MV-38 CONDOR start hunting JET | EA Forums

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Poor-JET
4 years ago
some of my footage
https://youtu.be/sD8Yu6vIdFs
https://youtu.be/uQ7_m0hDsMg
https://youtu.be/J3EbvWuRL5Q
use repair tools while flying condor
https://youtu.be/P5pCoD5MICk
xeNizKing
4 years ago
@Poor-JET I would call that incredibly annoying but not overpowered. Obviously it probably should be down tweaked a bit.
Poor-JET
4 years ago
@xeNizKing Jet still can't escape. Heli will die in fastly
ArchAngeL-PCX
4 years ago
@Poor-JET This is situational at best. Can a Condor do a decent job at chasing down a jet? Sure. But most won't even try it, and that's assuming you can even get a Condor in the first place. Since they grouped it with Nightbird, it often isn't even available.

And I've been harassed by jets often. Condor is a big easy target for them. So now you don't like it when they fight back? lol
Poor-JET
4 years ago
@ArchAngeL-PCXWhen jet pilot drive condor with 2 they friend like in my footage . :edit: ~~Jet~~ every aircraft can't fight condor anymore . how condor too much power like this
ArchAngeL-PCX
4 years ago
@Poor-JET "When" is the key word here. Most won't do that. Most are going to go after capture points. Most will use the transport for what it is meant to be lol.
ArchAngeL-PCX
4 years ago
@Poor-JET You just got unlucky and found the group that wanted to hunt jets. Maybe they were tired of being shot down lol.
ArchAngeL-PCX
4 years ago
@Poor-JET Honestly, I've tried to go after jets in a Condor. I was surprised at how I was able to keep up with a jet, but my gunners didn't know what I was doing lol. So they weren't really firing on the jet. And gunner cameras can be a bit hard to manage for air to air. And there's no in game voice chat so I couldn't tell them lol.
Poor-JET
4 years ago
@ArchAngeL-PCX FACT: Vehicle killer/Aircraft killer SU-57 FELON can't fight Transport aircraft MV-38 condor
Poor-JET
4 years ago
@ArchAngeL-PCX In ASIA server I found him often and if I played until the end of the match. Next match i'll found him again and again and again