So it’s been a while since our last ai rules update. I’m hoping we get new ones for the new season. here is what I’d like:Full xp for everything except when using the logic editor. (Preferred)But I’ll settle for full in aowAnd moderate for portal with ai back fill. Restricted for only the rules editor.You can’t complete the portal gun assignments because there aren’t any legacy servers, and if I try to make my own. I can’t complete them because ai restricts progression. (And weekly missions; which also includes battle pass missions)I really don’t want to bring up other games, but I can play overwatch 2, Insurgency Sandstorm, Verdunn, Tannenburg, Isonzo, and now Warzone 2 (see DMZ) and get full progression with the BP, so why can’t we Here for 2042.I promise a lot of people that left would come back if this was implemented.Thank you for reading this.

@SilverJackal96 Same here. When I want to host a Portal server with just default settings I prefer to enable the AI as placeholders for empty slots while more players join. When the difficulty is set on Advanced or even Default (which I notice is actually mixed difficulty and is only available in Portal settings) It is not like I'm farming kills. There is always a bot that one shot you and they actually put up a good fight.And, I don't really understand why they restrict everything in Solo / Co Op mode. You can only change the difficulty and maps nothing else.Maybe Dice could link the XP amount with the difficulty setting someone chooses in Solo / Co Op and Portal.Or, Dice could keep the moderate XP amount but let you earn Ribbons, weekly missions and let you go all the way to Tier 1 stuff. I know this is a thing in For Honor and it is actually pretty fun way to play if you don't want to play PVP all the time.I am pretty sure more players will return and buy from the store or buy season passes.Now I do understand there are also PVP and or hardcore players who maybe find it unfair that certain players could get Tier 1 skins or certain emblems etc etc. while playing PVE modes. Which I really do understand and is a fair point. But in my humble opinion I think it is more important that the playerbase will return and I am sure this is one of the many solutions. I think this wil also help a lot of players who live in the oceanic regions who have problems finding PVP matches.I really hope Dice will also double down on Portal because that has a lot of potential.

@twausdI 100% agree with you. I have the same experience. Sometimes I want to play PVP but then I only get in empty lobbys. Even with Cross Play enabled. I also want to add that you actually make a very good point about "fairness". Unfortunately I think you are also right about that we shouldn't expect much anymore about this topic because I don't see any Developers reacting about it (not constructive). But I notice that there are a lot of players who feel slightly cheated on or robbed of their money because of this restrictions decision (and many other factors).Maybe Dice could at least do this in the very next update: Lower the amount of players required to start a match. I don't think many players would mind if a match starts with bots and only 2 players. More people will join eventually and stick to the end of the match because they don't have to wait around.

At this point, people are XP boosting already without A.I. and can also progress masters fast without A.I. in 800% damage fast spawn servers.There is absolutely no reason to withhold full A.I. progression from Co-Op and un-modified portal servers

@SilverJackal96 @DeBezorgHaas Signed and as you probably know there is an ongoing discussion about it since it was removed after day one but DICE prefers to ignore it. Surely it's not a question of fairness as it would be possible for everyone and so it's fair. Unfair are Players who are using "questionable stuff" to have an advantage but that's a different topic. Personal I want to play PVP but there are times where you can't fight a server and on HZ you can't find one since months on PS5. Yesterday at this time for example I've waited 20Minutes for the round to start but at max there were 7 other Players with me and then I gave up and closed the game. It really makes me sad and angry that I've paid for something that I can't use when I want to use it. However, good luck with this request but don't expect much more than ignorance.

Sorry I’ve been meaning to reply to you guys, since you posted, but I wanted to get more stuff to reply with. I played a round on spearhead breakthrough, the other day, they’re insanely good now. One even managed to get to 48-0.And one on the other team ended with 87 kills.No reason why we shouldn’t have full xp now.https://twitter.com/silverchambers/status/1597010666874818561?s=46&t=3Lu75dXOhE1Q01RL9XREBwSo I think the farm bots argument should be shelved. Not to mention the fact that you can get full XP in all the Farming servers, and even Empty ones, yes I said empty servers. But as soon as you add bots forget about it. Also I kept getting put into empty servers even with crossplay on. Honestly if this was enacted… We’d never have to worry about player counts. No dead game or servers. I really hope Straatford or TotalFPS or any of the important people can see this. Thank you for your time in reading this. I appreciate it a lot.

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18 Replies

DeBezorgHaas
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago
@SilverJackal96 Same here. When I want to host a Portal server with just default settings I prefer to enable the AI as placeholders for empty slots while more players join. When the difficulty is set on Advanced or even Default (which I notice is actually mixed difficulty and is only available in Portal settings) It is not like I'm farming kills. There is always a bot that one shot you and they actually put up a good fight.

And, I don't really understand why they restrict everything in Solo / Co Op mode. You can only change the difficulty and maps nothing else.
Maybe Dice could link the XP amount with the difficulty setting someone chooses in Solo / Co Op and Portal.

Or, Dice could keep the moderate XP amount but let you earn Ribbons, weekly missions and let you go all the way to Tier 1 stuff. I know this is a thing in For Honor and it is actually pretty fun way to play if you don't want to play PVP all the time.
I am pretty sure more players will return and buy from the store or buy season passes.

Now I do understand there are also PVP and or hardcore players who maybe find it unfair that certain players could get Tier 1 skins or certain emblems etc etc. while playing PVE modes. Which I really do understand and is a fair point. But in my humble opinion I think it is more important that the playerbase will return and I am sure this is one of the many solutions. I think this wil also help a lot of players who live in the oceanic regions who have problems finding PVP matches.

I really hope Dice will also double down on Portal because that has a lot of potential.
twausd
Seasoned Vanguard
3 years ago
@SilverJackal96 @DeBezorgHaas Signed and as you probably know there is an ongoing discussion about it since it was removed after day one but DICE prefers to ignore it. Surely it's not a question of fairness as it would be possible for everyone and so it's fair. Unfair are Players who are using "questionable stuff" to have an advantage but that's a different topic. Personal I want to play PVP but there are times where you can't fight a server and on HZ you can't find one since months on PS5. Yesterday at this time for example I've waited 20Minutes for the round to start but at max there were 7 other Players with me and then I gave up and closed the game. It really makes me sad and angry that I've paid for something that I can't use when I want to use it. However, good luck with this request but don't expect much more than ignorance.
DeBezorgHaas
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago
@twausdI 100% agree with you. I have the same experience. Sometimes I want to play PVP but then I only get in empty lobbys. Even with Cross Play enabled. I also want to add that you actually make a very good point about "fairness". Unfortunately I think you are also right about that we shouldn't expect much anymore about this topic because I don't see any Developers reacting about it (not constructive). But I notice that there are a lot of players who feel slightly cheated on or robbed of their money because of this restrictions decision (and many other factors).

Maybe Dice could at least do this in the very next update: Lower the amount of players required to start a match. I don't think many players would mind if a match starts with bots and only 2 players. More people will join eventually and stick to the end of the match because they don't have to wait around.
SilverJackal96
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
Sorry I’ve been meaning to reply to you guys, since you posted, but I wanted to get more stuff to reply with.
I played a round on spearhead breakthrough, the other day, they’re insanely good now. One even managed to get to 48-0.
And one on the other team ended with 87 kills.
No reason why we shouldn’t have full xp now.

https://twitter.com/silverchambers/status/1597010666874818561?s=46&t=3Lu75dXOhE1Q01RL9XREBw
So I think the farm bots argument should be shelved. Not to mention the fact that you can get full XP in all the Farming servers, and even Empty ones, yes I said empty servers. But as soon as you add bots forget about it.

Also I kept getting put into empty servers even with crossplay on.

Honestly if this was enacted… We’d never have to worry about player counts. No dead game or servers.

I really hope Straatford or TotalFPS or any of the important people can see this. Thank you for your time in reading this. I appreciate it a lot.
Ironhead841
Hero
3 years ago
@SilverJackal96
All valid arguments, I have been saying the same thing but so far it has fallen on deaf ears.
SilverJackal96
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@Ironhead841 I know. It’s terrible. I took a video of my point about the empty servers. I’m on Xbox, so game pass should help the numbers. But I don’t know.
RayD_O1
Hero
3 years ago
@SilverJackal96 wrote:
Sorry I’ve been meaning to reply to you guys, since you posted, but I wanted to get more stuff to reply with.
I played a round on spearhead breakthrough, the other day, they’re insanely good now. One even managed to get to 48-0.
And one on the other team ended with 87 kills.
No reason why we shouldn’t have full xp now.

https://twitter.com/silverchambers/status/1597010666874818561?s=46&t=3Lu75dXOhE1Q01RL9XREBw
So I think the farm bots argument should be shelved. Not to mention the fact that you can get full XP in all the Farming servers, and even Empty ones, yes I said empty servers. But as soon as you add bots forget about it.

Also I kept getting put into empty servers even with crossplay on.

Honestly if this was enacted… We’d never have to worry about player counts. No dead game or servers.

I really hope Straatford or TotalFPS or any of the important people can see this. Thank you for your time in reading this. I appreciate it a lot.
Good post, I hope that they act on this, as you say it would definitely help counteract the low player count issues.
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@SilverJackal96 I’ll me too this message, a player can still farm without ribbons and if they’re farming anyways do they really care? Probably not, so who is Dice protecting with this restriction. Ranks go up to S999 so again, is that going to get them maxed out by having full XP in servers?
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
At this point, people are XP boosting already without A.I. and can also progress masters fast without A.I. in 800% damage fast spawn servers.
There is absolutely no reason to withhold full A.I. progression from Co-Op and un-modified portal servers
SilverJackal96
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@ATFGunr It’s not the matter of getting a high level. That doesn’t bother me. It’s just it’s ludicrous the rules on xp restrictions were put in place because of xp farms. They’re still in place regardless. So it’s basically like Prohibition here. Plus the low player counts don’t help either. (Which can so easily be solved with uncapped xp)
Plus the bots are pretty good now too.