Lis is grossly under powered. Her "guided" rockets have little range, no agility, and can be shot down. The restriction on vehicles is because there are only 32 people on each team.
This isnt Battlefield farm the ground who cant kill you game.
Air is top of the food chain. And with borg regen and repair bots, you have nothing to worry about from Lis.
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:Lis is grossly under powered. Her "guided" rockets have little range, no agility, and can be shot down. The restriction on vehicles is because there are only 32 people on each team.
This isnt Battlefield farm the ground who cant kill you game.
Air is top of the food chain. And with borg regen and repair bots, you have nothing to worry about from Lis.
Lis is grossly under powered. Her "guided" rockets have little range, no agility, and can be shot down. The restriction on vehicles is because there are only 32 people on each team.
You're just flat out wrong and you seem to be playing with the experience of using last gen consoles if you're ending it with that sentence. Lis sits behind walls hitting enemy armor like it's nothing. and it's unlimited ammo so if you have 2 lis's on you, you're * because you can't dodge rockets that a player can easily guide and 4 of those will do enough damage for you to panic.. you're completely *. You'll just get mortared by a * ton of lis rockets and I saw that * day 1 and it was horrible. limiting vehicles made it worse.
This isnt Battlefield farm the ground who cant kill you game.
You literally have 63 players that can use. "Wildcat anti air, jets, helicopters, anti air missiles, and lis rockets" that can literally blow you from the air. the difference here is dice didn't want to rework their maps fast enough because obviously all of these maps are too damn open for any vehicle to kill people in. with the new rework map now, it's twice as difficult to use a tank or wildcat and just as difficult using something like a stealth heli. oh and attack helicopters are obsolete now thanks to the stealth heli.
@XMikeE3 wrote:and it's unlimited ammo so if you have 2 lis's on you, you're * because you can't dodge rockets that a player can easily guide and 4 of those will do enough damage for you to panic.. you're completely *. You'll just get mortared by a * ton of lis rockets and I saw that * day 1 and it was horrible. limiting vehicles made it worse.
Holy heck what? What kinda learner permit pilots are you playing with? The cooldown on her rocket is high enough that "2 lis's" isn't enough to do a whole lot, even if they can land most of their shots. Of which, dodging them isn't even terribly hard given the insane maneuverability of helicopters/condor.
If she was actually a good counter to air we'd see her a lot more. But outside of when she first launched, you don't see to many Lis's actually bothering to waste their time trying to take down aircraft because, unfortunately, she's simply not good at it because of how busted the fundamental design of aircraft is.
@edgecrusherO0 wrote:
@XMikeE3 wrote:and it's unlimited ammo so if you have 2 lis's on you, you're * because you can't dodge rockets that a player can easily guide and 4 of those will do enough damage for you to panic.. you're completely *. You'll just get mortared by a * ton of lis rockets and I saw that * day 1 and it was horrible. limiting vehicles made it worse.
Holy heck what? What kinda learner permit pilots are you playing with? The cooldown on her rocket is high enough that "2 lis's" isn't enough to do a whole lot, even if they can land most of their shots. Of which, dodging them isn't even terribly hard given the insane maneuverability of helicopters/condor.
If she was actually a good counter to air we'd see her a lot more. But outside of when she first launched, you don't see to many Lis's actually bothering to waste their time trying to take down aircraft because, unfortunately, she's simply not good at it because of how busted the fundamental design of aircraft is.
I can agree with that. Lis is great for taking down ground vehicles, last night myself and 3 others in our squad all switched to Lis and took out a wildcat that was on the attacker side in the time of about 2 seconds. Hitting a chopper with the rockets is beyond frustrating. In multiple rounds I've quite literally had rockets BOUNCE off of the helicopter and go an entirely different direction instead of doing damage. Let alone the times where it seemingly goes right through it. I have to imagine this all has something to do with the tick-rate and sync/de-sync numbers with ping rates and everything.
@edgecrusherO0 wrote:
@XMikeE3 wrote:and it's unlimited ammo so if you have 2 lis's on you, you're * because you can't dodge rockets that a player can easily guide and 4 of those will do enough damage for you to panic.. you're completely *. You'll just get mortared by a * ton of lis rockets and I saw that * day 1 and it was horrible. limiting vehicles made it worse.
Holy heck what? What kinda learner permit pilots are you playing with? The cooldown on her rocket is high enough that "2 lis's" isn't enough to do a whole lot, even if they can land most of their shots. Of which, dodging them isn't even terribly hard given the insane maneuverability of helicopters/condor.
If she was actually a good counter to air we'd see her a lot more. But outside of when she first launched, you don't see to many Lis's actually bothering to waste their time trying to take down aircraft because, unfortunately, she's simply not good at it because of how busted the fundamental design of aircraft is.
You know what? I forgot to include that this argument was against using ground armor. You'll get bombarded by a * ton of rockets by her and since you're a slow moving tank or wildcat, it's an easy shot for them and you can do nothing about it because they can hide behind buildings and walls. I saw that countless times playing on a tank or wildcat, it's worse on breakthrough.
@XMikeE3 You're just flat out wrong and you seem to be playing with the experience of using last gen consoles if you're ending it with that sentence. Lis sits behind walls hitting enemy armor like it's nothing. and it's unlimited ammo so if you have 2 lis's on you, you're * because you can't dodge rockets that a player can easily guide and 4 of those will do enough damage for you to panic.. you're completely *. You'll just get mortared by a * ton of lis rockets and I saw that * day 1 and it was horrible. limiting vehicles made it worse.
LOL, sorry dude, to use a quote that is all the rage "You're just flat out wrong". You obviously havent played Lis. Rockers have little range, do less then half damage of the normal missiles, have no agility, and the minute Lis fires, everyone on the map sees her and targets her, including the target. Lis lights up like a Christmas Tree when she fires. You are faster, more agile and can shoot the rocket in flight. And while her ammo replenishes (15 second cooldown), vehicular borg regeneration regenerates more health in the cooldown then the rocket delivers. Go park behind a building and regenerate like every other pilot in the game. Go park in your starting area, like every other pilot in the game.
You literally have 63 players that can use. "Wildcat anti air, jets, helicopters, anti air missiles, and lis rockets" that can literally blow you from the air.
Yes you can, but they dont. They carry ammo because unlike vehicles, they run out. They carry armor, meds, and a plethora of other things. Yet, armor just sits on flags and targets infantry. They sit in their starting zones raining unlimited ammo down on objectives. Dude, youre grossly overplaying the risk card. Air and Armor spend more time farming. Helo's chase one guy across the map firing endless ammo and missiles for that one kill. The irony is, armor is complaining about airs dominance over them. Anti air missiles have been bugged so bad, I am surprised you mentioned them. The only thing they hit consistently are drones.
the difference here is dice didn't want to rework their maps fast enough because obviously all of these maps are too damn open for any vehicle to kill people in. with the new rework map now, it's twice as difficult to use a tank or wildcat and just as difficult using something like a stealth heli. oh and attack helicopters are obsolete now thanks to the stealth heli.
If youre getting hit in the air by Lis, you must be a condor pilot hovering 20 meters from the ground. Move dude. Youre faster, can turn on a dime, hell, bank right should be enough to do it. Air should never get hit buy Lis. Just accelerate dude, you will outrun it. If you don't see it coming, or don't pay attention to your warning, that is bad piloting, not a vehicle problem. Air is still atop the food chain and you're complaining.
