@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:@Padding_Ur_Stats
Skill issue. Again, I can hit good pilots with the TGM despite not having used the lissile that much - it's my way of getting cheap kills tbh.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXjRO415B0 - that was when I had just started using the lissile. The lissile in its current state is actually better than chopper wire-guided missiles. Prior to the nerf, you could loop around and try to hit the target again if you missed - imagine thinking that was OK.
LOL. I could give videos of Lis success too. I t1d her. What youre not showing is the number of times Lis is killed. Your in a bird yourself there. There just isnt that much space on the map for all the engineers.
Instead, be on the ground. That being said, You got a 1 in 100 hit. You fail to show the 99 misses. 1 success does not make Lis fine. It is easier to shoot jets then nightbirds. They do not have the agility nightbirds have. Predicting where the planes nose is going to be is not that difficult.
Nightbirds have agility. A 1 to 2 degree shift and that missile misses.
Imagine showing 1 success as a consistent play and thinking that was ok.......... Pilots continue to exaggerate, and lie about Lis to keep their EZMode.
Unless youre protected in a Nightbird
Lis failures include
How many 1 hit targets are there?
Of the two, Jets are far easier to hit then copters. If you get h it by Lis in a bug copter, you are a horrible pilot. Period. End of story. No excuse.
" It is easier to shoot jets then nightbirds. They do not have the agility nightbirds have. Predicting where the planes nose is going to be is not that difficult.
Nightbirds have agility. A 1 to 2 degree shift and that missile misses."
I agree. Hitting nightbirds with the TGM (and with pretty much any non-lockon weapons) is tricky if the pilot is not just hovering. I'd say that in its current state, the TGM is adequately effective against jets and stealth choppers but still overpowered against attack choppers).
"Imagine showing 1 success as a consistent play and thinking that was ok"
Happens consistently, just need to predict flight path (and it's actually easier to shoot from the ground). Jets are especially vulnerable when the pilot is engaged in a dogfight - the jet will sometimes fly as slow as 150-200 kmph in these situations and anyone with decent aim can get the jet (that was FAR too easy prior to the nerf because of the TGM's ridiculous agility and speed, which made dogfights meaningless).
Lis is extremely effective, i use her (with NTW50 and AT mines) to bully ground vehicles - she's actually more effective than jets against wildcats
@Metal_Daryl97The videos the sweats show us tell a different story. The intended counter, Liz, is not up to the task after the nerf. Therefore, a nerf to the NB is needed for a balanced game experience.
''Padding ur stats'' gave a great summary on the why and how here.
@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:I agree. Hitting nightbirds with the TGM (and with pretty much any non-lockon weapons) is tricky if the pilot is not just hovering. I'd say that in its current state, the TGM is adequately effective against jets and stealth choppers but still overpowered against attack choppers).
I bet you would say that. You would be wrong, but you would say that. Any helo hit by Lis is just a bad pilot. Period. End of story. Stop Flying.
"Imagine showing 1 success as a consistent play and thinking that was ok"
Happens consistently, just need to predict flight path (and it's actually easier to shoot from the ground). Jets are especially vulnerable when the pilot is engaged in a dogfight - the jet will sometimes fly as slow as 150-200 kmph in these situations and anyone with decent aim can get the jet (that was FAR too easy prior to the nerf because of the TGM's ridiculous agility and speed, which made dogfights meaningless).
So youre saying, Guess, and that is effective. ROFLMFHAO. You do realize that the jet is faster then the TGM unless boosted. Additionally, if boosted, the jet just has to bank any direction and the Lissile will miss because boosting eliminates any hope to turn. More lies
Lis is extremely effective, i use her (with NTW50 and AT mines) to bully ground vehicles - she's actually more effective than jets against wildcats
I bet you typed that laughing your * off. You must have that new immune Lis whose rockets never get shot down and she is never targeted. This is why this game is fubar. Players lying through their teeth to protect easy mode while epeening skill. Each on of your responses shows you do not know a thing about Lis.
@Wargame_Enj0yer
I'm not opposed to a nightbird nerf (although DICE should be careful to not over-nerf the NB; for instance, I don't think that performance of the NB's 20mm cannons or miniguns against infantry should be nerfed). I am definitely against a TGM buff tho.
@Padding_Ur_Stats
If you are having a hard time hitting ground targets with the EZ-mode-missile launcher, no wonder you can't hit choppers 🐱
I'm speaking as someone who has adequate experience using both the TGM and aircraft (nightbird, attack choppers and jets) - the TGM should actually be renamed to EZM.
Also, I like how you ignored my previous request (from old Lis nerf thread) to record yourself being effective using the jets or Apache/Hokum (careful, a LATV4 Recon might get you 🙌 )
If you want DICE to turn the EZ-mode-missile launcher into the EZM deluxe 2.0, feel free to make a new thread.
@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:@Padding_Ur_Stats
If you are having a hard time hitting ground targets with the EZ-mode-missile launcher, no wonder you can't hit choppers 🐱Well I dont have the Pilots version of Lis. Those versions are given to pilots so they can epeen how easy she is to protect their EZMode pilots. You see, my Lis isnt invulnerable from being targeted while guiding her missile. She glows big and red for all the enemy to target. My Missiles hit boxes are much larger then the Pilot EZMode Lis's. They get shot down quite a bit. If none of that happened, I would be able to hit armor without an issue, unfortunately, because I choose to play infantry which takes skill, DICE makes it harder on me. Dont believe me? They admitted to making the game easier for pilots when they nerfed Lis. They recognize the lack of skill so they had to make it easier for you. 🐱
I'm speaking as someone who has adequate experience using both the TGM and aircraft (nightbird, attack choppers and jets) - the TGM should actually be renamed to EZM.
LOL at adequate. You're lying through your teeth. You're just not aware of it because you lack experience. You believe you have all the playtime needed, and that is why the rest of us are laughing at you and not with you.
Also, I like how you ignored my previous request (from old Lis nerf thread) to record yourself being effective using the jets or Apache/Hokum (careful, a LATV4 Recon might get you 🙌 )
I do not have the recording programs on my system any longer. I had to remove them because of hard drive space. They also impeded my systems processing.
If you want DICE to turn the EZ-mode-missile launcher into the EZM deluxe 2.0, feel free to make a new thread.
Yeah, thats the ticket! I can lie through my teeth just like you. I can misrepresent, lie, epeen, all in the name of making my game easier. LOL that DICE admitted Pilots lack skill and they had to dumb down the game to make them happy. 🐱
And just a side note. I was the right gunner in a Hind yesterday. I shot down 5 of the 6 Lissiles that came our way. The one that did get through was part of a pair that I destroyed. I bet that was yours. 🐱
Still laughing
