Range + turn angle both have been nerfed. A welcome change since it was quite ridiculous how those rockets can literally circle around your heli 2-3 times before running out of fuel while being able to do a full 360 within a 50m radius.Another good change (Hopefully) is jet. F35 will be more agile to be on par with SU-57Overall, great news in addition to season 4BATTLEFIELD 2042 UPDATE #4.0 (ea.com)

@UP_LordPlumber Pilots will be begging for another nerf if they get hit once

@Psubond Pilots never stop whining.They can go 100-0 and they'll still complain about having to fly away for 20 seconds to autoheal if they get hit with 1 stinger.

@Tank2042Man wrote:@Padding_Ur_StatsYou said the same thing about the class rework yet every honest player knows there's just as many rocket launchers around as there were pre class rework.There are now. At the time of the change, there were not. For the first couple weeks, armor was nigh indestructible. Pilots didn't die and played all game without a respawn (unless another vehicle targeted them)Which was always going to happen when snipers can still equip rocket launchers for example.Since those launchers are for the most part Lis, bad sniper is bad. They light themselves up and give away their locations. That being said, they are not the ones who are rocketing you. Ive been playing, those rockets are not coming from snipers. Snipers do not care about pilots, they are farming infantry.Turns out weapon proficiencies isn't a big enough draw to persuade players to stick to their class guns.It was at the beginning, but what you do not realize is, it was you, the pilots, who told them what to do. In the beginning, there was less then 10% map presence of Rockets, and they were not working together. Vehicles were running roughshod over everything. 100 kills and any pilot deaths came from other vehicles for the most part. The odd vehicle who died by Lis came here screaming OMG SHE IS OP!!!!!!!!!!!!! They misrepresented information on Lis, they posted outright incorrect information about her abilities, whining ad nausea to get her nerfed. After several weeks of being farmed, those infantry players had a few choices.1: Stick with status quo and be frustrated2: Go to another game3: Play rockets.With all the bellyaching the pilots did, the infantry player base had enough and based on Pilots info (they were reading), they switched to Lis. Now, the tables have turned. Players are playing as DICE designed and pilots are still whining, still sharing misinformation, still outright misrepresenting data in order to get EZMode. What was it another thread said, constantly dodging missiles is not fun? Yet, there was no mention that infantry constantly dodging vehicle fire wasn't fun. It is this incredible hypocrisy that pilots used to nerf infantry. They expect the rules of the game to change for their ease. I find it ironic that in the Lis nerf, DICE talked about skill, yet there is no mention of the skill necessary for pilots to dodge missiles. It just goes to show DICE sets the skill level for survival very high on infantry, and incredibly low on pilots. Who would've thought!Oh that's right, little old me 😁Ironically, you were part of the people getting players to give up their guns for rockets. It was you, among others, who convinced them that a Specialist was OP (when she wasn't) . And like most pilots, playing an OP part of the game was attractive to them, after getting farmed incessantly.Funny thing is, if 25% of the player base continues to play Lis, these changes will change little on the message boards. Rocket range isn't an issue when you have many people playing Lis. Pilots will continue to whine, continue to beg for nerfs, continue to expect to survive, rather then exhibit skill to survive. They whine about C5, they will whine about multiple Lis. Pilots will continue to whine because they believe infantry isn't there to combat them, they are there for their KD Epeen, and anything that might threaten that, needs a nerf. What!!! We can't hover to farm infantry, NERF THEM!!!!!!! What! We cant park at the flag and farm infantry, NERF THEM! Too many of them playing together!!!! NERF THAT. Yes, nerf teamwork has been a foundation of pilot posts.I do await future posts that Air vs Armor is unfair and nerfs needs to be applied. Oh wait, there already is a thread about that.Who would've thought!!!!Oh that's right, little ole me. :D

@UP_LordPlumber wrote:Maybe because pilots who are capable of solo farming are actually good and spent an insane amount of time learning that one specific thing?DICE doesnt think so. See the comment they made in their nerf announcement.I literally LOLd. They are increasing the skill cap on Lis to, and I quote "Ease up on the vehicle player experience". Apparently 5 deaths are causing pilots to seek counseling and DICE believes the pilot skill set to be trash. Prepare to see all these "skilled" pilots hovering above nodes farming infantry and if one lone Lis still hits them, they will be back here whining.How come people are ok with players who are farming infantry on foot. Getting 70-80+ kills in a single conquest game. Yet pilots who do the same thing are instantly not allowed?Is this a troll? If not, I will answer just for the sake of presuming youre being honest. Because you cannot fly away on foot to a place where others cannot go without dying and heal. Because, when youre on foot, it doesnt take a special weapon to take you down and you have to sit there with a big red light on you waiting for someone to gank you while your ammo is on its way to hit you. Because while I am standing there aiming, 4 times. Because....This has bothered me for so long. I keep dropping 50+ kills pretty much every single game on foot, and nobody complains about it. But as soon as I get into the littlebird and start dropping same amount of kills, instantly reddit and forums blow up calling me a heli no lifer. Whats the difference?Exposure. The difference is exposure. Youre probably getting killed 7-10 or more times while you're getting 50 kills. You cannot outrun me on foot. You cannot run out of bounds and hide to heal while on foot. You do not carry a healbot on foot (sans falck) Birds might die once. Might! You're either being purposely obtuse or you're a troll.

@Tank2042Man wrote:@PsubondFor tanks its a minor nerf to the rocket.But Dice have been monitoring and it's clear they have seen major issues.I think its encouraging that Dice are continuing to make adjustments based on good feedback, observations and data.We are the CTE which is fine by me.Im not mad about nerf. I just think pilots will cry for more

Pilots rejoice! Lis got quite a nerf (4.0 Patch note)

161 Replies

Psubond
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber Pilots will be begging for another nerf if they get hit once
Tank2042Man
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber Infantry players on reddit are currently having a major meltdown.
Tank2042Man
3 years ago
@Psubond For tanks its a minor nerf to the rocket.

But Dice have been monitoring and it's clear they have seen major issues.

I think its encouraging that Dice are continuing to make adjustments based on good feedback, observations and data.

We are the CTE which is fine by me.
Psubond
3 years ago
@Tank2042Man idk how you can use that site. Im not surprised on the meltdown
Psubond
3 years ago
@Tank2042Man wrote:
@PsubondFor tanks its a minor nerf to the rocket.

But Dice have been monitoring and it's clear they have seen major issues.

I think its encouraging that Dice are continuing to make adjustments based on good feedback, observations and data.

We are the CTE which is fine by me.
Im not mad about nerf. I just think pilots will cry for more
Tank2042Man
3 years ago
@Psubond Haha. I just say my mind and move on.

It's the platform with the highest engagement for 2042 which is the main draw for me and its not as strictly moderated as this place.

Though I recently got suspended for a week for suggesting a hysterical poster go grab a hat based on a females reproductive organ and start a street protest about 'evil' EA.
Psubond
3 years ago
@Tank2042Man wrote:
@PsubondHaha. I just say my mind and move on.

It's the platform with the highest engagement for 2042 which is the main draw for me and its not as strictly moderated as this place.

Though I recently got suspended for a week for suggesting a hysterical poster go grab a hat based on a females reproductive organ and start a street protest about 'evil' EA.
i'm shocked you didn't get permabanned for that considering who usually ends up being mods on reddit (in general not neccesarily the BF reddit)
Man_iLoveFishing
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Psubond I don't know about others, but for sure it will give me a bit more space and reaction time.
Psubond
3 years ago
@Man_iLoveFishing Yea, but the day after the update people like silk will be screaming for another nerf
VOLBANKER_PC
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber I think they should balance certain things differently between consoles and PC.

Lis’ rocket is hard to control on console IMO whereas apparently it’s easier on PC??