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bevvoo
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago

ranger should be weaker and could be a Boris ability

I think right now Boris is the less used specialist, after the last update Boris sentry gun is very weak and is ability is sort of a stationary one. Giving him a weaker ranger could mean giving play...
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CountSero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

@bevvooi totally disagree here,

first the ranger is good as it is and second boris needs his sentry

I used the ranger often and I have only around 210 since release, so I think this thing is far from overpowered. (With 430+ hours on the clock)
Also, there can only two of them active on each team, which is a good balance I would say (on 128p conquest I would say they should increase the limit up to 3-4 per team)

If you die on a ranger, you were already low on life which is unlucky but if you die on full health, you are not aware of your surroundings.

Also, DICE should set back the Sentry to the old values and only remove the 3D spotting and all would be fine. With the nerf DICE killed Boris and his gadget, there are only some few players which are brave enough to use him while trying to get a T1.

Before the nerf you could play offensive with Boris (I played him as a main till T1), you could also use the Sentry as a distraction while flanking a flag spot. Many players forget that most of the gadget could be picked up, when you do this, you can move it quickly around without cooldown.

Also sentry guns are not new, there where already in BF2142.


I’m also the opinion removing and nerfing things in BF2042 is not the solution. DICE needs to learn how to balance, this also includes the courage to strengthen other things instead of making everything weaker.

  • emerson1975's avatar
    emerson1975
    3 years ago
    @CountSero Yep as far as I am concerned boris has turned into a complete non entity in this game and is the weakest specialist by far
  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @CountSero I disagree with this always buffing things over nerfing something when it needs it. They can’t be afraid to go in either direction. That’s literally why it’s called balance. Whatever direction it needs to go in for balance is how it should be handled. Not we want more buffs not nerfs mentality. It’s silly, where do you go if everything becomes too lethal?

    The Ranger shouldn’t be able to shoot at anyone. The damn thing spots me all the time while I’m the only one in actual cover. No one shoots at it but me, so it targets me I guess. I’ll kill the owner and then empty two clips into it, and it’ll still have 50% health. Since no one shoots at it, even when teammates are right next to me, I’ve been killed by it lol. I have a pretty decent KD and it’s not because I’m a bad player, or lack awareness, it’s because I have an urge to get that thing off the field. Personally, I hate the Ranger and I’m tired of wasting ammo on it. It shouldn’t have as much health if nothing else changes. Two full mags emptied into it with any gun and it should be dead.
    • CountSero's avatar
      CountSero
      Seasoned Ace
      3 years ago
      @RaginSam Maybe you should get back to my post and read it again mate.

      I never said that I only want buffs, I said that they should get the courage to strengthen things instead of making everything weaker. I think this is a big difference 😉 because now they only know the nerf hammer.

      And if you have such a problem with the ranger, which is tanky but has an abysmal accuracy, you should change your tactics. As I have written before when you get killed by it you are on low life or not aware of your surroundings.

      Yes, I sometimes get killed by the ranger and guess what most of the time it is my own fault the rest of the time I where on low life.

      Also, there are only two of them on each team at the same time….
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    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @CountSero wrote:



    I’m also the opinion removing and nerfing things in BF2042 is not the solution. DICE needs to learn how to balance, this also includes the courage to strengthen other things instead of making everything weaker.

    What exactly needs a buff right now? That reads like you don't think there needs to be any further nerfs in BF2042.

    To be fair though, you're not reading my statements either...

    When I kill an enemy that was the owner of the Ranger, I'll hide behind cover. I'll peek out to empty a mag into it, then go back to cover and reload. I have to repeat this process three more times to kill it. It has too much health. I don't die to it in gunfights. I die to it trying to wipe it off the field like I do with mines, drones, or spawn beacons. Half the people on your team are usually potatoes and don't seem to see any of this stuff. So, if I'm the only one shooting at the ranger surrounded by teammates, it will then laser focus me, because that's how it's programmed.

    Like I said, I'm a pretty decent BF player. I'm always aware of my surroundings, consistently top 10 or higher on my team, good KD. I'm a try hard and have been playing the series for a long time. The Ranger is SILLY. It shouldn't be shooting people or spotting them 300 yards out. It needs to have lower health if it doesn't get reworked. If it does, then I don't really care long as it just carries ammo and can disable land mines or something.

    • CountSero's avatar
      CountSero
      Seasoned Ace
      3 years ago

      @RaginSami have not said that there are no nerfs needed but imho we needs some weapon buffs more than nerfs

      ok some quick ones out of my mind:

      -SVK needs a buff in RPM

      -DM7 needs a buff in Damage

      -the AA needs more range and a faster lock on

      -The PB-X needs a little buff in damage

      -Boris Sentry needs a buff in damage, rpm and some increase in life (not necessary in spotting)

      -Dozer shield need a little resize (to left/right) and better bullet reflection

      -LCMG needs a little Damage Buff

      -Ghostmaker needs a more range before the damage drops (otherwise this is not a weapon that you would take compared to other weapons at that rpm)

      Also, DICE needs to recalculate alle numbers for Air vehicles, especially with the new Stealth Helicopters. A balance between all vehicle is very important especially in Breakthru where vehicles are very limited for one side.


      And as a try hard you are not smart when you shooting at a ranger with full life.

      Also, I don’t think that you are using a marksman rifle, a sniper or one of the utility guns for this when you need 3 or more mags for it.

      Maybe use an EMP nade ? A Grenade ? No ?! what a pitty.

      I have somewhat over 210+ kills since release on this rate I need another year to get the ranger to T1.

      If this is a thread to you on the field DICE has done all things right with a mobile distraction^^

      and with the right cheesy playstyle it is no problem to be in the top ten 😉

      • RaginSam's avatar
        RaginSam
        Seasoned Ace
        3 years ago
        @CountSero Yeah, we’re not going to agree on much.

        The PBX needs a buff?! Definitely No.
        Same for the LCMG? No.

        Why should I have to carry nades to deal with a random Ranger? How about I put two mags into it and be done? It needs less health. If you can’t agree to that, then there’s no way you and I could agree on much.

        I want cheesy stuff in the game to be minimal, and more of a novelty. The middle ground would be the Ranger staying in the game, but lowering its health, and possibly reworking it. It’s not okay the way it currently is. I’ll deal with it, but doesn’t mean it should be left alone.

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