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Re: And there goes zombie mode...

@Zeagles21 I agree with you that zombie mode had no place in this game at all, and I too wonder about how that battle pass is going to work.

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  • Twordy's avatar
    Twordy
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    Bots/AI should never find itself in the multiplayer experience. It is pretty apparent that players will take advantage (glitch the s**t out) of AI to farm XP or get unlocks faster in PORTAL (with bot logic options) than in CQ or BT mode. Conquest and Breakthrough are nothing but NOT interesting with predictable AI to be perfectly honest. Unlocking anything for less than avid players with the current game flow (because of not really great map design) in Conquest is a Nightmare difficulty level to accomplish. 

    After getting all the unlocks fast on the BOT FARMS... there is zero incentive to grind/play Conquest with bots back again... but obviously, devs don`t see it that way - because there are zero internal tests probably. I feel zero incentive to grind for a gloomy skin or do weekly missions honestly either. What players expect is a MULTIPLAYER EXPERIENCE in a first-person shooter. Without VoIP, elaborate Squad Management, even Scoreboard (who could have thought), global chat - how is this even a Multiplayer experience with Bots dominating all over the place?

    It`s nothing else than STATS PADDING (a term from BF2) on lifeless AI!! How hard is it to predict what AI in regular matches does to the gameplay?

    This IP is being ruined by flawed decision-making. It feels like some intern is trying to figure out the game flow and bot function in the game honestly. Battlefield is a sandbox in Conquest on its own. There is no need to borrow from other titles or the classic game modes will be wiped out (destroyed by no classes or pointless map design) and replaced by other game modes like a Zombie Mode. This is all we want, right?

    Leave the bots only for the offline experience, build a separate offline progression system there or grant all the unlocks for testing purposes.

    Zombie Mode and Stats Padding on AI is being promoted - simply amazing! AI in multiplayer (I`m not talking about extraction game mode that doesn`t belong in BF genre anyways) equals Stats Padding and uninteresting gameplay. Bots in MP don`t balance the game or anything. End of story.

  • @Twordy Yup, the decision making team behind this disaster (not just zombie mode) is really all over the place... Sticking with their stubborn design choices nobody wanted, disabling progression after they promised full progression, then the silence over the holiday, minor update after 45 days, XP changes for portal to combat abuse releasing with a featured abuse mode...

    Total derp-fest so far... And if they rumors are true and they go free-to-play then they will have completely ruined BF...
  • Justin Wiebe
     
    @JA_Wiebe
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    11h
     
    I’m not going to lie, this one shouldn’t have gotten through our review process. I think our desire to create a fun zombies mode clouded our ability to see such a simple thing like the impact it would have on progression. I’m very sorry for the hardship this has caused.
  • BizzyVaping's avatar
    BizzyVaping
    4 years ago

    @CantGetRight wrote:
    Justin Wiebe
     
    @JA_Wiebe
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    11h
     
    I’m not going to lie, this one shouldn’t have gotten through our review process. I think our desire to create a fun zombies mode clouded our ability to see such a simple thing like the impact it would have on progression. I’m very sorry for the hardship this has caused.

    The sad thing is it wasn't even remotely fun.

    No one would have been playing it If it wasn't for the super fast progression. 


  • Twordy's avatar
    Twordy
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @BizzyVaping BOTS/AI in MULTI = STATS PADDING

    and even more boring gameplay but nothing else

    People grind quickly in custom game modes to find out that there is nothing to grind for in classic Conquest.



  • @Twordy Well, if people are leaving the way they are currently... soon we'll be having servers half filled with bots anyways... ☹️

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