Re: Expectations Vs. Reality

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@Ironhead841 wrote:

@NazT55 

Oh, I absolutely agree but at least with a REAL squad management system you can mitigate some of the headaches a little.

I mean who hasn't had that mental giant in their squad who,

• A. Won't revive or give ammo, spot etc. etc.
• I don’t play Falco to revive you.  I play for her extra gadget.  I don’t carry ammo on her.  You want ammo, loot your kills. My spot doesn’t work
• B. Spends the whole match hill-humping while ineffectively sniping at the far edges of the map while the rest of you are getting slaughtered PTFO, and then has the audacity to whine non-stop because you won't run over there to give them ammo
• who are you to tell me where to shoot.  You’re whining in the previous bullet about ammo. 
• C. Spends the whole match hurling insults and telling everyone how "trash" the team is from their 39th place position on the scoreboard
• eliminate the scoreboard
• D. Drives off in a vehicle without picking anybody up
• tjey aren’t driving for you
• E. Uses a fully loaded Condor as their own personal transport, bails out to get to their favorite sniper nest, and lets everyone else die a fiery death (one of my personal favorite ways to die)
• they don’t pilot for your game

And I'm sure I could go on, but you get the picture, it sure would be nice to boot these big-brain, widow-lickers out of your squad.

others in the game are not here for your benefit.   You want a cooperative squad, full bd 3 friends.    Booting people is a toxic abusive ability in MMOGs

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@Padding_Ur_Stats 

Wow just....wow.

That kind of mindset perfectly illustrates why we need squad management.

Since when is booting someone out of your squad "toxic" anyway? It isn't like they get kicked out of the game, they can still continue on their mindless, merry way.

While other players that actually do want to help each other out, PTFO, revive, dole out ammo, spot etc. etc. can team up, play together and oh I don't know, play like a SQUAD.

@Psubond 

Exactly, another good example!

Why is your dollar more important then mine?  Why because I dont play his way, I get penalized?  This is a narcissistic quagmire of people Epeening their own skill and abusing the kick option because of a self important view they have.  .  

Nobody has the right to have decision making authority over another because they aren't playing their way.  Period.  Especially with all the team making ability this game provides.  The last week, I have been playing in a squad of 4 and we are all playing as a pre-discussed team.  Find your own. 

That being said, I wholly support the ability to Solo Squad.  Being spawned on when youre a sniper or a FlimFlammer is frustrating, so give me the option to Solo out, but being kicked IMHO is wrong.  Period.

@Padding_Ur_Stats 

How are you being penalized?

It nothing to do with being a "narcissist" or "abusing" the kick option, it's not like it yeets you out of the match just THAT particular squad.

What the hell do you mean by "all the team making ability this game provides." this game has been the most anti-community Battlefield released to date.

No server browser, no persistent servers, no clan/platoon support, no all-chat, no VOIP at launch and last but certainly not least no squad management at least not as of the writing of this post.

And on a final note, do a quick google search for "meme" or "joke"

That is all this post was originally meant to be, just kind of a friendly little "poke" to EA/Dice to remind them how much many players would like to see this option reintroduced.

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@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:

Why is your dollar more important then mine?  Why because I dont play his way, I get penalized?  This is a narcissistic quagmire of people Epeening their own skill and abusing the kick option because of a self important view they have.  .  

Nobody has the right to have decision making authority over another because they aren't playing their way.  Period.

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I let my wife play BF1 once.  She loves horses.  Spent the entire match 'rescuing' the horses.  Riding them to a far corner of the map.  

Just playing her way.

I told her that this was probably killing my stats.  She said if I ever mention video game stats to her again she'd divorce me.

Life Pro Tip:  The ladies don't care about your stats.  We've been lied to.

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@Ironhead841 wrote:

Oh, I absolutely agree but at least with a REAL squad management system you can mitigate some of the headaches a little.

I mean who hasn't had that mental giant in their squad who,

• A. Won't revive or give ammo, spot etc. etc.
• B. Spends the whole match hill-humping while ineffectively sniping at the far edges of the map while the rest of you are getting slaughtered PTFO, and then has the audacity to whine non-stop because you won't run over there to give them ammo
• C. Spends the whole match hurling insults and telling everyone how "trash" the team is from their 39th place position on the scoreboard
• D. Drives off in a vehicle without picking anybody up
• E. Uses a fully loaded Condor as their own personal transport, bails out to get to their favorite sniper nest, and lets everyone else die a fiery death (one of my personal favorite ways to die)

And I'm sure I could go on, but you get the picture, it sure would be nice to boot these big-brain, widow-lickers out of your squad.

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F. Annoyingly asked for revive in middle of gunfight, while he doesn't revive you even after area was cleared.

G.Annoyingly pinged enemies in middle of gunfight, messing with bullets sound directions.

H.Use voice chat as broadcast radio for his favorite playlist, of just a static noise.

I. Groundlover, bushwanker, hillhumping that only does spotting and he thought he contribute A LOT.

J. Sitting comfortably in HE Shell seat in the edge of map while scolding everyone why objective hasn't been captured.

K. Hillbilly players that spawn at you for helping capture objectives after all enemies are dead, not doing anything just wanting an easy and cheap XP.

L.Camping in already captured objective and when raided, they yelled at you why no one helping.

M. Typing primitive, archaic chat such as "GG" "EZ" while he sit at bottom of barrel with deficit.

There you go, I added some to your list. Squad management is LONG OVERDUE, my squad my rule, I want the ability to booted clowns like previous game. Though I notice after the update Dice trying to be woke by adding changing squad button.Lol, what a mental gymnastic, you don't like your squad members, you quit and make a new squad.

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@Ironhead841 wrote:

@Padding_Ur_Stats 

How are you being penalized?

It nothing to do with being a "narcissist" or "abusing" the kick option, it's not like it yeets you out of the match just THAT particular squad.

What the hell do you mean by "all the team making ability this game provides." this game has been the most anti-community Battlefield released to date.

No server browser, no persistent servers, no clan/platoon support, no all-chat, no VOIP at launch and last but certainly not least no squad management at least not as of the writing of this post.

And on a final note, do a quick google search for "meme" or "joke"

That is all this post was originally meant to be, just kind of a friendly little "poke" to EA/Dice to remind them how much many players would like to see this option reintroduced.

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100% this.

@RayD_O1

@Ironhead841
I'm all in for a lonewolf squad 😉

Keep it friendly, folks. Otherwise I have to show you my stats... And I am sure those will scare you away... 😉

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@Ironhead841 wrote:

@Padding_Ur_Stats 

How are you being penalized?

It nothing to do with being a "narcissist" or "abusing" the kick option, it's not like it yeets you out of the match just THAT particular squad.

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Let me take a moment to apologize for misunderstanding you.  When you talked about kicking, I thought you meant from the instance, not the squad.   If you kick someone to be in a solo squad, I have no issue with that. 

I have played in game where Kick removed you from the instance, not just the group.

Sorry about that.

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@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:
@EA_Leeuw Laat me schrikken grote jongen!

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@Padding_Ur_Stats, 

Also; English on this forum, please. 😉

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@Psubond wrote:
Change squad doesnt work. I want leave squad so i can be on my own if i choose

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What am I suppose to do, make another threads? LOL.

Apparently if squad pool already filled,you can't create another squad ( all the way up to Rattlesnake, I think). Another instance if you join by friend list invite or last online feature, you create new squad automatically, but if just 2 or 3 of you, last member will be fill with random AI until random guy from queue join. During that time none of your friend can't join.Seem like Dice trying to be woke by "diversifying" squad.

Don't blame on me btw

I don't think any of the lack of squad features in BF2042 have to do with player feelings or political agendas, etc. They just didn't want to spend time/money on developing them (i.e. corporate greed strikes again).

So many "legacy features" have been stripped away from BF2042. Game software development by AAA studios has become so bogged down in the past 2 decades that it now it takes 20 different teams just to make a UI change or fix a bug. In efforts to scale, these studios have compartmentalized so much that it takes way too much effort to get things done. Combine this with constant pressure from executives to "do more with less" and you end up with a bunch of frustrated and marginalized developers and ultimately a lesser product.

I really feel that being able to kick greefers from your squad is important. I would be totally for this.