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  • RandomActivity's avatar
    RandomActivity
    New Veteran
    2 years ago

    There is a heli vs infantry balancing problem and the developers add a ridiculous little flying scooter. It's so pitiful.
    Seriously, are you really optimistic about the next battlefield when we see these antics??

  • Ai-Fluffy's avatar
    Ai-Fluffy
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    And the heli balance has been an issue day one.
    At this point you just have to accept that dice are useless.  No other reason for this.

  • Ai-Fluffy's avatar
    Ai-Fluffy
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    And another game where two good pilots dominated an entire map map.
    You can have a squad of four people dominate every flag but if their team isn't  doing their part they can still lose.

    Yet DICE have made a game where the very small percentage of pilots can dominate entire maps.

    Honest question to admin on here for DICE - Why have they made the helis so OP? 

  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    Again, you have tools. Complaining here won't do much. Hear your self. 2 vs 64.

  • Ai-Fluffy's avatar
    Ai-Fluffy
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    I am talking about good pilots.
    Yes good pilots can dominate maps.

  • VOLBANKER_PC's avatar
    VOLBANKER_PC
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Ai-Fluffy Just quit the server and find another one,

    The situation with dominating pilots will never change unfortunately, so do what you have to do to live with it.
  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    2 years ago

    @VOLBANKER_PC
    It was the same since I joined the series with BF3.
    It seems it cannot be helped.

    To be fair, BF2042 have given the ground forces more tools than any other modern warfare BF game before.

    And people REALLY got to try the new Rao hack!

    Now it basically gives a complete modular damage to the vehicle.

    When I did it on a  nightbird, it basically caught fire and had to retreat  with its tail between its legs!

  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Ai-Fluffy I am one of them. I can assure, going full dominance means, your team is bad. No resistance. Same way rams can go full dominance.
  • JOGAGATYA's avatar
    JOGAGATYA
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Ai-Fluffy wrote:

    I am talking about good pilots.
    Yes good pilots can dominate maps.


    Good infantry players dominate too. Some of them kill me 6-8 times in a match before i can get them. Same as helicopters. Everyone just has to accept that helicopters are stronger than infantry. Takes time to kill them. All of the frustration comes because you expect to quickly get rid of the bothering helicopter to continue to run headless chicken. You have to dedicate time to kill a helicopter and have to work together with other players/friends. Meanwhile your K/D will go down. Normal stuff. 

    OMG there are guitars in this song and they are overpowered! Really? It's a ROCK song...

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    2 years ago

    @VOLBANKER_PC
    Have fun tormenting pilots and drivers!
    I managed to steal a CAV-Brawler because the driver freaked out so much from the new effects of the hack that he jumped out.

    Eventually many pilots will adapt and select Cyber warfare protection but that slot competes with the instant repair so they will have to compromise between anti rao protection and repairs.

  • MADMAC50K's avatar
    MADMAC50K
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @UP_Hawxxeye wrote:

    To be fair, BF2042 have given the ground forces more tools than any other modern warfare BF game before.


    And they've given vehicles far more counter measures than any other BF game before.  It's about balance.  And the fact is air vehicles are massively unbalanced right now.  It's not a skill issue, it the fact that engineers can do nothing against dominating air vehicles.  And thanks to DICE, there are even more air vehicles now - but weirdly they forgot to increase gadget ammo (giving 1 extra rocket to only 1 of the engineers doesn't count), and made it harder to pick up gadget ammo....how strange?

  • MADMAC50K's avatar
    MADMAC50K
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Man_iLoveFishing wrote:

    Again, you have tools. Complaining here won't do much. Hear your self. 2 vs 64.


    We've gone over this.  The tools are ineffective and the game isn't designed to make team combat easy.  It relies too heavily on comms (that people don't use), orders (that people don't give), and ammo (that people don't/can't drop).  Pilots don't have to rely on any of that.  Just hold left mouse, and farm away.  And not all 64 players will have to correct load out to help with a helo problem - or even be anywhere near it to be able to help.  In fact, most players (other than those being farmed) will have no idea.  So it's not 2 vs 64.

  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    Just hold left mouse? For real? Jokes on you bud. What I had to achieve to be good with helo.

    Learning it's frame

    It's flight mechanisms that has been changed in periods of time

    Maps

    All incoming danger

    All missile timings

    Other aircrafts fights, especially dogfights.

    Hacks

    Safespots in danger

    Risky flights in order to survive.

    And that all happens in real time.

    What you? Lazy to learn Lizz that literally needs only mouse. Continue training. 

  • sk1lld's avatar
    sk1lld
    Legend
    2 years ago

    @MADMAC50K wrote:

    @Man_iLoveFishing wrote:

    Again, you have tools. Complaining here won't do much. Hear your self. 2 vs 64.


    We've gone over this.  The tools are ineffective and the game isn't designed to make team combat easy.  It relies too heavily on comms (that people don't use), orders (that people don't give), and ammo (that people don't/can't drop).  Pilots don't have to rely on any of that.  Just hold left mouse, and farm away.  And not all 64 players will have to correct load out to help with a helo problem - or even be anywhere near it to be able to help.  In fact, most players (other than those being farmed) will have no idea.  So it's not 2 vs 64.


    This is in fact the issue. It's near impossible to coordinate with others to get this done with the tools provided by the game.

  • MADMAC50K's avatar
    MADMAC50K
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Man_iLoveFishing Maybe I was a little unfair to skilled pilots.

    But for gunners, it's literally hold left-mouse or also hold right mouse to turn on thermal scope to make it even easier....
  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    2 years ago

    @MADMAC50K wrote:

    @UP_Hawxxeye wrote:

    To be fair, BF2042 have given the ground forces more tools than any other modern warfare BF game before.


    And they've given vehicles far more counter measures than any other BF game before.  It's about balance.  And the fact is air vehicles are massively unbalanced right now.  It's not a skill issue, it the fact that engineers can do nothing against dominating air vehicles.  And thanks to DICE, there are even more air vehicles now - but weirdly they forgot to increase gadget ammo (giving 1 extra rocket to only 1 of the engineers doesn't count), and made it harder to pick up gadget ammo....how strange?


    Additional air vehicles means more distractions and threats for the rest of the air vehicles. A pilot who does not first ensure air superiority before turning to ground targets will regret it the next time he retreats from the front line after spending their countermeasures on avoiding that stinger. Even a rookie with heatseekers can end them

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