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mihasha89's avatar
mihasha89
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago

Re: PP-29 BROKEN

We are playing in FPS AAA game , I have good aim and why I need to suffer using AR , or any other weapon except PP29 ? 

There are many examples on YouTube where you shoot with AR or DMR or heavy machine gun and it seems that bullets simply do not want to register hits into the enemy's body. And it doesn't matter what distance it is. Just look at at least the AngryJoe video - it's just a shame for a game like battlefield for such a terrible gunplay . Only PP29 is less enjoyable for gunplay.

people , I hope they will turn off this bloom and leave only recoil . 

Bloom is added into games for one reason and one reason only, to help bad players win gunfights. It shouldn't exist. It throws skill out the window. If I am more accurate than you, then I should win the gunfight. My bullets shouldn't randomly miss because the game says so. That is trash.

9 Replies

  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @mihasha89You need bullet spread in addition with recoil. Battlefield has always had both. If you shoot at a wall you can see the recoil direction, and see that the bullet holes aren't perfectly aligned. If there was no spread, then you could make a macro to have it where you had zero recoil. Having no spread would be broken for a lot of reasons.

    Other games like in Halo, typically it's called bloom in those games, guns don't have recoil. Instead the bullets become less accurate, bloom, if you hold down the trigger, or you spam a gun too fast. If you have that system, you would actually remove recoil. 

    I don't think there's any game that has just recoil without bullet spread. Plus it wouldn't feel good to play.

    They can adjust the values of spread and maybe they're set too high. The game isn't running great at all right now and that can effect everything. Aiming in general feels a bit off. I'm personally struggling to get 60 fps, were in other games like BFV I could get a consistent 120 fps.

  • Trokey66's avatar
    Trokey66
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @mihasha89 How does spread help 'bad players win gunfights'?

    If they are bad, they will miss regardless of spread and will usually mag dump meaning SIPS (if applied) will make it even worse!

    And one thing is for sure, if they balance all other weapons around your 'gold standard PP-29', this game will die faster than BFV.
  • mihasha89's avatar
    mihasha89
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    @Trokey66Are you kidding me ? Just check battlefield 5 gunplay , and check hitreg and bloom ))))

    I’m sure that everybody will agree that weapon bloom or spread - destroy game . No one wants to play in this , man , just look in YouTube angryjoe video , or another video review - you will find out that gunplay is broken , and the reason is bloom , we need to remove this piece of * .

    Or if not , everybody will forget about battlefield 2042 , and will continue playing cod , battlefield 5 , halo , etc .

    It is impossible to shoot from AR , heavy assault rifles , dmr , etc

    https://youtu.be/BC28d8pei1k

    https://youtu.be/Ua1IpydSlno

    https://youtu.be/1AXndU2-kf8

    Just check

    And about bad players and good players , at this moment if I use broken weapons , my k/d is about 0.7 .

    But if I use pp29 - 5/1 or higher .

    I’m tired of those situations  when my bullets just fly throw the enemy and don’t register hits .

  • mihasha89's avatar
    mihasha89
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    Also for example if I play battlefield 5 my k/d is about 4/1 plus minus . 

    cod mw19 - same . 

    I hope you understand what I mean 

  • I just can't with the AR's anymore I feel like retiring them until they are fixed. 8 deaths to 0 kills and I know I should have gotten at least 4 of them. They're just too hard to work with right now.  PP-29 just dominates them at anything other than longer-range single shot even by then they could probably shoot off a dozen shots too no answer. Simply terrible 


  • @RaginSam wrote:

    @mihasha89You need bullet spread in addition with recoil. Battlefield has always had both. If you shoot at a wall you can see the recoil direction, and see that the bullet holes aren't perfectly aligned. If there was no spread, then you could make a macro to have it where you had zero recoil. Having no spread would be broken for a lot of reasons.

    Other games like in Halo, typically it's called bloom in those games, guns don't have recoil. Instead the bullets become less accurate, bloom, if you hold down the trigger, or you spam a gun too fast. If you have that system, you would actually remove recoil. 

    I don't think there's any game that has just recoil without bullet spread. Plus it wouldn't feel good to play.

    They can adjust the values of spread and maybe they're set too high. The game isn't running great at all right now and that can effect everything. Aiming in general feels a bit off. I'm personally struggling to get 60 fps, were in other games like BFV I could get a consistent 120 fps.


    Rainbow Six Siege is all about recoil control with little to no bullet deviation. Yes you can make macros to eliminate it, but you can just as easily make hacks that eliminate weapon bloom. So that's not really a good counter argument.

  • In this case I believe bad equals slower reflexes. Doesn't mean they can't aim at all, just can't center the target as quickly. But when RNG makes half the bullets miss them they get the chance to aim up and maybe get in a lucky headshot to win.

  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @BicolorZulu Notice how you said Siege also has spread. It's a variable that can be adjusted. It's not that it should be removed entirely, it's that it may need tuning.

    Macros aren't injecting code into a game. You're using software on the actual product. Everyone owns a mouse these days that can use macros. It's much more accessible than straight up cheating. There's a big difference there.

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