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cso7777's avatar
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago

Re: Sundance Scatter to bouncing betty? F.R.A.G.S.

The problem is that the game is dumb. The scatter grenades are a total joke and having several Sundances spamming them at once is like nothing we have ever seen, even on locker or Metro.

Use Irish blah blah. We have never had a grenade that worked like this, with such a specific counter.

CQC maps in BFV actually worked pretty well (regarding fighting/gunplay), because the grenade spam was kept at a minimum, now we have the opposite situation and if we get more maps like Exposure this will keep haunting us.

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  • @cso7777 If you feel you're getting spammed by grenades use Irish, drop the trophy system and you won't have any problems anymore. Players that don't decide to adapt to X situation deserve to get grenade spammed to death.

  • Trokey66's avatar
    Trokey66
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @cso7777Yes we have had a grenade similar, BF4 had a grenade launcher that fired 3 grenades if I remember correctly, that bounced around.

    And let's not forget the XM25!

    Metro was explosives heaven/hell depending on your point of view.

  • Trokey66's avatar
    Trokey66
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @protoman23 How could we! And then there was BF1's Assualt class with Anti Tank grenades and normal grenades!

    I'm no fan of these scatter grenades but to suggest it is 'new' is a tad silly.
  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
    Legend
    4 years ago

    idk if breakthrough 64 is the same on pc/ps5/xbox series x/s but  on xbox one breakthrough 64 i find that i have to change my specialist depending on which set of objectives we are doing

    Attacker:  sector A:  i use irish or lis (depending on vehicle situation)

                      sector B: irish

                      sector C: same as A

    Defender: sector A: rao (to deal with helo and other vehicles

                       sector B: irish

                       sector C: rao if helo is being annoying, otherwise irish

    if you use irish in the appropriate areas the grenades are not an issue and you get a ton of points if you run the ammo box with him (once i T1 that i'll start working on med box.  need like 200 more resupplies)

  • RMEChief's avatar
    RMEChief
    Legend
    4 years ago
    @Psubond I use Sundance as an attacker in almost all sectors with the wingsuit flank, but will sometimes swap to Irish after one point is held at B. For defenders, I like Rao at Sector A and C as well. He shuts down the helo and can neuter the vehicles as well. Otherwise it is Irish who absorbs all the grenades.
  • @Psubond You're always in my head. This is exactly what is needed. Learn to switch up your specialist depending on needs. Not enough nade control become that Irish. Need Some vehicle control? Switch. Also, don't be afraid to change up your loadouts as needed for the situation. You cn't just be static and hope to succeed. You also can't rely on the other guys to do what is needed. Improvise, adapt, and overcome!
  • Cipax's avatar
    Cipax
    4 years ago

    Is the Sundance grenade problem on all maps or just exposure? because I've not once heard anyone complain about her grenades until Exposure, sure I've had a problem with it but I just changed to Irish and haven't been killed by them since.

  • ElliotLH's avatar
    ElliotLH
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    +1 for using Irish with an ammo box on Exposure. He's incredibly helpful in the second sector of Breakthrough, and works well in the others too from my experience.

  • DaveTheBrave_USA's avatar
    DaveTheBrave_USA
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @protoman23 wrote:
    @cso7777If you feel you're getting spammed by grenades use Irish, drop the trophy system and you won't have any problems anymore. Players that don't decide to adapt to X situation deserve to get grenade spammed to death.


    I am sure you are a big Sundance user, enjoying the grenade kills and protecting your turf.


    @protoman23 wrote:
    @cso7777If you feel you're getting spammed by grenades use Irish, drop the trophy system and you won't have any problems anymore. Players that don't decide to adapt to X situation deserve to get grenade spammed to death.


  • protoman23's avatar
    protoman23
    4 years ago

    @DaveTheBrave_USA wrote:

    @protoman23 wrote:
    @cso7777If you feel you're getting spammed by grenades use Irish, drop the trophy system and you won't have any problems anymore. Players that don't decide to adapt to X situation deserve to get grenade spammed to death.


    I am sure you are a big Sundance user, enjoying the grenade kills and protecting your turf.


    @protoman23 wrote:
    @cso7777If you feel you're getting spammed by grenades use Irish, drop the trophy system and you won't have any problems anymore. Players that don't decide to adapt to X situation deserve to get grenade spammed to death.



    Sundance is my 3rd highest played specialist with 58 hours I believe. I only have 210 kills/assists with her smart grenades. So I wouldn't say I'm playing exposure 24/7 sitting in the interior points throwing scatter grenades for easy kills. I primarily use Sundance when I'm repping a Hind/Condor since you can throw the anti-armor grenade to either deal damage to an aircraft or bait them into popping flairs early. The anti armor grenade also acts as a baby soflam and can give you the opportunity to fire a locked on M5 rocket at a vehicle. 

    Using a tank with heat shells is much more satisfying for farming the interior points on exposure.

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