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OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago

Re: The old scoreboard

DICE wants new players to have fun. If new players can bring up the scoreboard and see how bad they're playing compared to other players, it might fustrate them and cause them to quit playing the game.

An unfortunate side-effect of participation trophy game design is a portion of the player base will feel less motivated to continue playing the game. Having the high score is a significant motivation for a lot of gamers.

Remember the old arcade games showing a high score page before you put the coins in it? That kind of game is old and antiquated and doesn't belong in an inclusive participation trophy game.

Just have fun and don't worry about your score or winning and losing. Some people prefer this philosophy and some people don't. I'm not a fan of it and think it removes a sizable portion of the fun.

14 Replies

  • Terminator00000's avatar
    Terminator00000
    4 years ago
    This is pretty much the answer. 

    And to be honest, I absolutely don't miss the old scoreboard at all. Not because I'm bad in the game (I am bad, but I stopped caring about that years ago for PvP),  but because this is better for anyone. Especially for.the stat *.
  • Buzzfunk's avatar
    Buzzfunk
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 I think you haven't been playing a lot of competitive games like BF. The whole teamplay aspect of BF doesn't work. The old sacoreboard clearly shows, even if i have 5 kills and 40 deaths, i can still be in the top 5 because i revived a lot, i captured a lot. I was never a top kill ratio player. But still you felt some sense of accomplishment at the end. 2042 is exactly the opposite. That busy clunky squad screen makes no sense. Its designed to hide players real performance because they know: BF games are hard at first. People get frustrated and leave. I have done this. BF 1 i couldn't do *. So I stopped playing for a while.

    Dice's excuse is to have 'more fun' but half the fun is to strife to be a better team player and 2042 encourages not any of it. This is also why GLOBAL CHAT is missing. So now instead of taunting your enemy which totally makes sense, people on your town team talk *. They are trying to cancel "video game bullies" which is ridiculous because * talk is part of the game. I've * talked already during the Quake years in 1996 and it was never a problem.

    As 2042 is right now, its sorta a FFA game with team elements thrown in. When you think about it, it all makes sense.
  • Terminator00000's avatar
    Terminator00000
    4 years ago

    I play video games for more than 20 years and I actually always hated how scoreboards, we used to have, always were, because they promoted everything that defines egoistic gameplay. Having a terrible K/D but tons of heals, revives and ammo given is just some band aid for yourself and nothing more. It doesn't help me to feel better if my 200 revives and heals were made in a chokepoint in Operation Metro or anything equally to that situation. 

    In my eyes, a scoreboard like this is a step in the right direction. Now they just need to buff points for teamplay and PTFO and nerf points for kills. So people would finally start to play in a team in this wannabe Call of Duty. 

  • ghinavirus's avatar
    ghinavirus
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 all you have to do is just not look. You stated you dont care anymore so why remove a feature that has always been their and a part of BF. Just dont look.
  • Buzzfunk's avatar
    Buzzfunk
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 sorry, I disagree. The whole point is, you can make it to the top which killing a lot of people. Which proves: You did a lot of team work.

    Its beyond me how any one say this SB is going "in the right direction". I simply think, you dont like competitive games and just wanna have "fun" ( I mean its all supposed to be fun but BF always was a bit competitive).
  • GRiPSViGiL's avatar
    GRiPSViGiL
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @BuzzfunkYou are right, the scoreboard missing removes the ability for players who do the support sort of things in the game a way to quantify their effectiveness. What the missing scoreboard does mostly is allow cheaters to hide easier. The kill feed is harder to follow than seeing a cheats score rocket to the top of a game in a pace that is not natural.

  • Buzzfunk's avatar
    Buzzfunk
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 I just imagine that would have cut the global chat in games like Quake back when and displayed only the combined points after a team match. No one would have ever played these games for as long as they did. You're logic is wrong.
  • Terminator00000's avatar
    Terminator00000
    4 years ago
    @Buzzfunk Competitive games stopped being interesting, when people abused the * out of the tiniest exploit they could find. And let it be just set the graphics to the lowest setting possible.

    That's why I don't take those people serious even an inch.
  • ghinavirus's avatar
    ghinavirus
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 you remove the scoreboard , you will quit this game guaranteed by the end of December. The cheaters will be hidden. Hey we can spectate them, no we cant because thats missing also.
  • Buzzfunk's avatar
    Buzzfunk
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 Again, you playing these games just for fun but not to win a match? I think what youre saying makes zero sense.

    The easiest solution: Give people options. Don't wanna see you're stats ala old BF scoreboard? Dont look at it. Wanna know your squad score instead? Sure. That way, everyone is happy.

    BTW This isn't a new feature request. EVERY BF game had one. And this entire discussion on the board could have been spared if one of the Dice COMMUNITY managers would actually, manage. What im saying - im not against changing things but why not give people options? Esp with core elements that were part of the franchise since the first BF.
  • BizzyVaping's avatar
    BizzyVaping
    4 years ago

    @OskooI_007Im sure most of us started off beeing terrible when we first started playing back in the day, but we're still here.

    It could be that they really thought no scoreboard would mean less frustration for new players but come on...

    It's not like anyone who gets killed constantly from the start and till the end of a round is going to be any less frustrated because they can't see exact numbers on how bad they played.

  • BGHFlakjacket's avatar
    BGHFlakjacket
    4 years ago

    Because nowdays....everybody is a winner.  Why hurt some kids feelings when he notices that he is absolutely terrible at the game.  The new lack of scoreboard lets camping snipers know that their complete lack of contribution to the game should not be punished by their low rank on the scoreboard.  

    Those people that preorder any game should not be upset or angry at EA or Dice.......Learn from this!

  • SirBobdk's avatar
    SirBobdk
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @OskooI_007
    DICE wants new players to have fun. If new players can bring up the scoreboard and see how bad they're playing compared to other players, it might fustrate them and cause them to quit playing the game.
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    Maybe so.
     it`s a problem on PC if we dont have a Scoreboard to see dodgy stats. How are we suppose to report players if we cant see their stats. I could suspect EA removing the scoreboard to minimize the talk of cheating like we also dont have spectatemode or recorder. Admins in the portal will have a hard job keeping servers clean.

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