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Re: THERMAL SCOPES should be able to see through SMOKES (and other adjustments)

1) That would make thermals ridiculously OP.

2) What raging fires? There are hardly any fires active at any given time- raging fires even less so. And since fire grenades is countered directly by smoke- thermal would ruin that balance. 

3) That's not how thermal even works. What is the point of camoflage / guillie suit if can be countered by a scope anyone can equip? 

9 Replies

  • bevvoo's avatar
    bevvoo
    New Traveler
    2 years ago

    Thermal scopes can see through smokes IRL, thermal scopes aren't just better (the visibility of the enviroment it is rather worse because everything it is grey, you can't see bullet drop, etc.).

    I partially agree that fires is not that present as smokes.

    Guillie suit is it still useful (BF i sandbox not a simulator btw),  as I said above not everyone is going to use TS because it would not be a win-win solution anyway.

    At least this is my personal opinion... hands up!

  • X-Sunslayer-X's avatar
    X-Sunslayer-X
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    first off you asking for thermals to see trough smokes is only going to encourage people to sit even further back with a sniper rifle and play "high contrast immersion gaming"... i can already imagine how horrible gameplay would feel on the more open maps with 10-25 people sitting somehwere in a bush with thermals and the railgun....

    secondly if DICE were to actually do this then they need to give everyone the option to add magnesium powder to their smokes as to make them appear like a white cloud to thermals... you know as a counter.

    in the end this will hopefully never happen because it will not add any value to the moment to moment gameplay.

  • AlkaniusRUS's avatar
    AlkaniusRUS
    2 years ago

    My personal opinion, DICE decided to just tease, please the mechanics and the foot soldier. What is the useful value of the NightBird thermal imager when it is available to the passenger? Why was it given to the NightBird, but not to the shooters of attack and stealth helicopters? They also did not give the opportunity to put instead of optics in the main gun of the tank, they were afraid that the tankers would bend the infantry like a BF4.
    They did, but through one place, as they say.

  • bevvoo's avatar
    bevvoo
    New Traveler
    2 years ago

    I don't  think that's the case, none use smokes as defence from far away snipers, smokes are used in very close mass fight situation (especially in narrow spots).

    With thermals you can't see the bullet drop so I don't think they would be used for far away sniping (also the optics are very short sighted).

    It would be nice for medium to close aggressive sniping which is what I personally enjoy...

    Magnesium powder smokes would be actually very cool and it's a great idea for balancing (maybe they could cover a smaller area or last less time than the vanilla smokes).

  • Electronic Arts what the hell?  Thermal Scopes cannot see through a smoke grenade? 


     "thermal cameras can see through smoke and fog to a certain extent, but their effectiveness is limited by various factors such as the thickness of the smoke or fog layer, the temperature of the objects behind the smoke or fog, and the sensitivity of the thermal camera itself." 

    Would've been cool if you tried to make Thermal Optics work realistically as opposed to your half assed solid grey BMP IMG you plaster on my scope.

    Came back for the new patch.  Leaving because of this.

  • S3SSioN_SoL's avatar
    S3SSioN_SoL
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Zahmbomb420 wrote:
    @Noxynoxnox
    "1) That would make thermals ridiculously OP."
    I guess real life physics and science is overpowered.

    I always love these posts that do not factor in gameplay in anyway.

    By this logic, a single bullet should incapacitate any soldier. Carrying an RPG should replace your primary weapon. Getting in and out of tanks should take 5 minutes.

    I could go on...

    At least make a constructive suggestion such as: There should be an option to allow thermals to see through smoke in Portal.

    Bam, did it without offending anyone.

  • @Zahmbomb420
    It is an intentional design choice to avoid the thermal dominance from the older BF games.
    They can still see through the smoke that is not caused by players.

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