Re: We Need Input Based Matchmaking System

@emerson1975 

So all PC players are "cheaters"?

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@emerson1975 wrote:
@ragnarok013Why do you think it’s great when closed systems like Xbox and playstation charge for their online gaming and get put against cheating pc players who play for free?
Isn’t the whole point in these closed systems plug and play and security against multiplayer hackers?
Who with a modicum of common sense wants this silliness

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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. I've played about 150-200 hours, my buddies that I squad with have played far more. None of us have ever seen a "cheater" in our matches. The worst we've seen is people getting glitched below the ground and shooting up. But it's not at all like how I've seen on older BF games or Call of Duty, etc that are just swamped with people wall hacking, aim botting, flying through the air and ending up 300-0 on the scoreboard. 

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@emerson1975 wrote:
@ragnarok013 Why do you think it’s great when closed systems like Xbox and playstation charge for their online gaming and get put against cheating pc players who play for free?
Isn’t the whole point in these closed systems plug and play and security against multiplayer hackers?
Who with a modicum of common sense wants this silliness

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@emerson1975 Technically everyone is charged for their online gaming via their ISP, but console players (I am one too since I play on PC/Xbox/Playstation) get double taxed because we are willing to pay. Sony never used to charge for online until they saw Xbox get away with it. Back on topic, cheating is greatly over exaggerated by the console (and sometimes even PC) player base. Maybe I've been extremely fortunate since 1996 when I started gaming online on PC in FPSs but I rarely run into a bonafide cheater on PC, it's happened but rare for me.  Most of the shady deaths that I experience can be explained away via latency variations or ping differences with people playing with bad internet or out of region - especially when you check the scoreboard and see the guy has a mediocre KD (yet another reason why a scoreboard with real ping number is so necessary). Also there are cheats for console too since it's basically an x86 PC platform so let's not act like console players are white as the driven snow when it comes to shenanigans. You also have the option to opt out of cross play if you really don't like playing against other platforms.  Personally I'll always fight for gamers to have the option to play with friends and cross play is the epitome of being able to play with friends.

@ragnarok013Firstly your running of the misconception that hackers only play as superman aimbotting everyone in sight, if anything they are the minority!
Your whole argument about paying to play is a bit silly to be fair and as of right now nobody has been able to write unsigned code to next gen consoles at all so it’s physically impossible to run anything unless Sony and Microsoft say so irrespective if its x86 or not

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@emerson1975 wrote:

@ragnarok013Firstly your running of the misconception that hackers only play as superman aimbotting everyone in sight, if anything they are the minority!
Your whole argument about paying to play is a bit silly to be fair and as of right now nobody has been able to write unsigned code to next gen consoles at all so it’s physically impossible to run anything unless Sony and Microsoft say so irrespective if its x86 or not

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@emerson1975 I know people who were able to hack on non-jail broken PS3s in COD in the 2010s with it's cell architecture so x86 isn't bullet proof and I know not all bad actors are rage hackers.  On a side note next gen consoles haven't been announced yet so I assume you referring to current gen consoles (PS5/Xbox Series X)?  Yes I'm being pedantic since we're 1.5 years into the current console lifecycle. Next gen consoles became current gen consoles at the end of 2020. ;-)

Your claim about no cheating going on in current gen consoles seems to be contested: https://charlieintel.com/anti-cheat-watchdog-claims-warzone-hackers-will-be-coming-to-console-soon/113412/

https://gamingintel.com/how-warzone-players-cheat-console/

I found a lot of other articles but didn't link them since I don't want to run afoul of any forum rules.

It seems very important for Pc-players to have console-players in their servers but not the other way around.... 

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@lionking7001 wrote:

It seems very important for Pc-players to have console-players in their servers but not the other way around.... 

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They should be thankful we are there to help carry their teams! /s