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Seriously...
What the heck we need to do in order to get an official reply by the DICE staff on this subject?
Do we need to perform a Summoning Ritual? To offer a Sacrifice of Blood and Cash?
Enough pitchforks always works
But imo the whole underbarrel being basically available on almost all weapons was a mistake anyway so is the implementation of the plus system. Especially considering you can throw like 3 types of underbarrels onto your weapon which is dumb as hell, the plus system isn't very well thought out to begin with with the ammo types plus the underbarrel issue. While the SCAR has a underbarrel as default it all makes zero sense.
I never got used to using them I find it very finicky for my playstyle and often the game gets stuck in the wrong mode and I cannot fire my weapon doesn't swap properly. So yeah never touched these things myself.
Think they should simply allow just 1 singular underbarrel in the plus system at a time if they up the ammo count again.
- 2 years ago@doubleome huh? It makes perfect sense to have multiple underbarrel ammo types. They are all a standard size round, you would put a single underbarrel launcher on your gun in reality and you can fire all types of 40mm ammo without having to change anything. Honestly it should even be like that in the game, equip the UBGL and then have a fire mode selector to choose what 40mm type you want, so you don't have to eat up your other attachment slots just to have a different ammo type.
You are right about them being clunky to use, I think they messed something up in this season because they did not used to be so unreliable to switch between your gun and UBGL. There is also a bug now with EMP grenades that prevents you from changing fire modes off of the UBGL, so you have to switch to your secondary weapon then back to the rifle to be able to use it normally.- doubleome2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@SVND0WNOh ye that makes sense, then they should change the UI to show that, now it sorta looks like you are carrying with you 3 launchers. But again I think that should always be your first underbarrel slot and cannot have anything else, then the extra slots in the plus menu change to ammo types just like the railgun basically, just find it weird as hell atm. If it comes at a greater cost they can also reward that with more ammo.
- JWGrasli2 years agoNew Adventurer
Minimum would be shared ammo of 3 as there is 3 different types (AT launchers also have that). Thats the closest to previous 3 of each but instead if total 9 there would be 3. But the best would be 4 or 5 as thats the value most of the previous games gave had and a good compromise imo 😉 Remember still lot less than 9 which was up until now..
Cant compare to Hand Grenades as they have double/triple the power (kill radius) of the 40mm, even Scatter grenades are more powerful. Big difference.
So yeah DICE, how about this?
-> SHARED AMMO POOL!
Examples if you equip all types:
- Previously you had 3 of each for a total of 9.
- Currently you have 1 of each for a total of 3.
- New suggestion: shared ammo pool of maximum 5 total (or at least 3 shared).
That means if you fire 3 HE, you have only 2 smokes or 2 incendiary left or vice versa.
THAT sounds like a good compromise and good balance, right? Its also similar to previous BF games ie. BC2 had 4 in ammo, BF2 (2005) had 5.
I even recall that 2042 maybe had this shared ammo at launch but that they changed it in a patch, if so very weird..
- JWGrasli2 years agoNew Adventurer
Nah I like the plus menu and it works for modern times of BF, same goes for regular weapon ammo that you have different mags of too.
However I may have thought of another possible solution for the 40mm here now -
-> SHARED AMMO POOL!
Examples if you equip all types:
- Previously you had 3 of each for a total of 9.
- Currently you have 1 of each for a total of 3.
- New suggestion: shared ammo pool of maximum 5 total.
That means if you fire 3 HE, you have only 2 smokes or 2 incendiary left or vice versa.
THAT sounds like a good compromise and good balance, right? Its also similar to previous BF games ie. BC2 had 4 in ammo, BF2 (2005) had 5.
I even recall that 2042 maybe had this shared ammo at launch but that they changed it in a patch, if so very weird..
- doubleome2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@JWGrasliPlus system just adds to the problems 2042 has, just another thing adding to the chaos and unpredictability. Finding a stable setup especially with how accurate weapons are there is no real need imo to change often. Silencers and ammo types sure, but not everything, weirdly enough you don’t even have an animation to change stuff apart from ammo it’s just instant, that’s not good for a Battlefield game. What’s even the point of the double zoom scopes? Introduced in FPS games just before 2042 came out, 2042 implemented them and also instantly made them kinda irrelevant. Oh wait I know why added them to the game they look great in gameplay trailers, adds depth to the battle.
The strength of a well balanced Battlefield game is never being fully prepared for the situation you are faced with, but that was almost 100% undone when 2042 came out. Hence why the plus system is one of the issues.I like the idea of the system but it needs a massive overhaul if it returns in a new title, with the focus on making it not as casual to change stuff as it is now.
- 2 years ago@doubleome Everyone has access to the Plus system. There is no balance issue or any issues with the Plus system. It's a very good addition to the game and significantly increases the amount of tactics available to everyone. If someone chooses to use up all their Plus slots for UBGLs then it's their choice, they lose access to grips or lasers for that. Nothing in the Plus system changes a gun enough to allow it to function outside of its niche besides maybe the BSV-M.
rest of the irrelevant stuff: Battlefield isn't a milsim game, it's never been realistic. 1942 had jetpacks in it. The animations instantly switching stuff is perfectly "good" for a Battlefield game. Double zoom scopes? Variable zoom? That's been in the games since at least BF2. Or you mean canted iron sights? No idea what you're referring to with "double zoom".
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