Riddle me this with 64 conquest-

Why on some 64 conquest maps-we get air vehicles but no AA ?

Ive only just started playing 64 conquest from 128 as the games take hours to fill and to be honest what kinda caacaa is that dice ?

At least with an AA vehicle you get some chance to defend,

discussion

Wargame_Enj0yer
2 years ago
@Hudson1531I dont understand this either. The rest of the AA options are not effective vs any experienced pilots decided to farm the server.

Thanks to the awesome flarespam system we have FXM AA launcher: useless, dart-gun: useless, SOFLAM+jav or M5 only working if the engineer who fires is really close to the heli.
25mm flak gun doesnt work because once they see its up they take some distance and take it out.
Liz is too easily dodged, and if you manage to get a hit in vs the AH, you actually need 2 Liz hits to down it. Not happening against experienced pilots.

DICE doesnt know good balance. I avoid the 64p maps that have no wildcat or jets on to counter heli's. And even the Wildcat is severely lacking vs helisweats.

21 Replies

X-Sunslayer-X
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Hudson1531 the only map that comes to my mind is Reclaimed which has a big CWIS AA gun on the roof of C1 I think....
also the Brawler, Recon, Hovercraft and MAV have access to the 25mm Flak gun as armament.... Ontop the MBT and RAM can have 40mm cannister shots that wreck unsuspecting helis, ontop of Liz and Stingers ontop of also having your own teams helicopter.....
soooo what are you on about?
SharpGoblin
Legend
2 years ago
Didn't pilots complain about too strong AA possibilities in other threads?
Wargame_Enj0yer
2 years ago
@Hudson1531I dont understand this either. The rest of the AA options are not effective vs any experienced pilots decided to farm the server.

Thanks to the awesome flarespam system we have FXM AA launcher: useless, dart-gun: useless, SOFLAM+jav or M5 only working if the engineer who fires is really close to the heli.
25mm flak gun doesnt work because once they see its up they take some distance and take it out.
Liz is too easily dodged, and if you manage to get a hit in vs the AH, you actually need 2 Liz hits to down it. Not happening against experienced pilots.

DICE doesnt know good balance. I avoid the 64p maps that have no wildcat or jets on to counter heli's. And even the Wildcat is severely lacking vs helisweats.
GrizzGolf
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I wish we had more AA options on some maps
Hudson1531
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Wargame_Enj0yer I agree thats all i do now leave the game at least with AA you have some chance, afternoon/night time i just jump back into 128 conquest.

Sadly we have a daily fly boy who is just a gun in the heli on 64 conquest so without AA he will just sit above spawn and farm-even trying to use RAO hacking your dead by the time its done.

Makes it harder you cant solo on the ground against a good heli pilot either all comes back to team work
Hudson1531
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@GrizzGolf With reclaimed with get x1 fixed AA point, why didn't dice do this from the start on all maps just gives the ace pilots something else to watch out for so we at least get a chance.
D-Man3847
2 years ago
Need stationary anti-air in the spawn. That way the anti-air vehicles can push forward and not camp in the spawn.
Wargame_Enj0yer
2 years ago
@D-Man3847 Somehow, this is too much work for DICE. Otherwise we'd have it already on Hourglass conquest (which is kindof notorious now for the base-spawnfarm). I kindof given up hope for this game, but you never know if DICE has some surprises for us that involves changing overall mechanics.
RanzigeRidder2
Legend
2 years ago
@X-Sunslayer-X wrote:
@Hudson1531the only map that comes to my mind is Reclaimed which has a big CWIS AA gun on the roof of C1 I think....
also the Brawler, Recon, Hovercraft and MAV have access to the 25mm Flak gun as armament.... Ontop the MBT and RAM can have 40mm cannister shots that wreck unsuspecting helis, ontop of Liz and Stingers ontop of also having your own teams helicopter.....
soooo what are you on about?
Spearhead also has no Wildcat.
X-Sunslayer-X
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@RanzigeRidder2 my bad so its two maps without the wildcat, yet all the other options still persist so again what is the issue with this amount of options?