Scaling in BF2042
I’m not actually sure what to call this issue, so if you know a better term please let me know. The issue is that everything looks stretched out vertically. Circles look like ovals on the native r...
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@RaginSamI don't know, haven't noticed anything unusual. I've cycled through 1080p 21:9, 1440p 21:9 for the past 5 years or so and now on 1600p 21:9
Personally, I don't see any distortions. After reading your post, I've played a few games and made sure to pay attention to round objects / objective bubbles etc and I don't see any problems with it.
Now mind you I've been playing on 21:9 monitors in BF1/BF5/BF2042. I haven't noticed any scaling issues personally.
I do have another gaming PC with 24" 1080 panel. Might install BF2042 there and see how it looks compared to my 38" 3840x1600p monitor
@UP_LordPlumber Thanks for paying attention to everything and giving feedback.
I reinstalled BFV and it's honestly the same thing. Everything just looks too tall and skinny, but I think it was a conscious choice. It's been a trend now, especially for military type shooters to "stretch" everything vertically to try and replicate real life. To me, it just looks weird and characters are too skinny. It's not what real life looks to me.
In BFV I tried turning down my FOV and it helped a little. I also turned it to max and that actually made things look more proportionate overall.
It's also partly because I've been playing on this stretched resolution for a while now. I had a more curved monitor for about a week, and when I switched back to a regular flat panel it felt convex for about a day. It was weird. So I'm sure that doesn't help either. Still, I switched in the first place for a reason.
I guess that I should be happy that the game actually looks pretty good with a stretched resolution. Most games do not. The trend of trying to make everything "realistic" is something that I'd like to see go away. I want to shoot at normal sized healthy people, not 110 lb. 6' tall guy zooming around.
I reinstalled BFV and it's honestly the same thing. Everything just looks too tall and skinny, but I think it was a conscious choice. It's been a trend now, especially for military type shooters to "stretch" everything vertically to try and replicate real life. To me, it just looks weird and characters are too skinny. It's not what real life looks to me.
In BFV I tried turning down my FOV and it helped a little. I also turned it to max and that actually made things look more proportionate overall.
It's also partly because I've been playing on this stretched resolution for a while now. I had a more curved monitor for about a week, and when I switched back to a regular flat panel it felt convex for about a day. It was weird. So I'm sure that doesn't help either. Still, I switched in the first place for a reason.
I guess that I should be happy that the game actually looks pretty good with a stretched resolution. Most games do not. The trend of trying to make everything "realistic" is something that I'd like to see go away. I want to shoot at normal sized healthy people, not 110 lb. 6' tall guy zooming around.
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Do you have a link to the monitor that you are using? @RaginSam
Any screenshots how it looks for you would be also helpful
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@EA_Atic wrote:Do you have a link to the monitor that you are using? @RaginSam
Any screenshots how it looks for you would be also helpful
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. It was really bugging me and I felt frustrated that it seemed like I was the only one having this issue. Also, Thanks for motivating me to actually grab some screenshots and compare different settings.
After testing things, it's definitely more my preference and probably how I perceive the world. To be honest, I'm not that big of a fan when it comes to tactical and military type shooters. So I tend to gravitate towards more Arena type styles of games. There's just not much out like that unfortunately anymore. Battlefield has been the exception for a lot of reasons, but one of the big ones is the movement feeling so smooth and fluid compared to any other military type shooter. Nothing compares in my opinion.
My monitor is the BenQ EX3415R 34
I took a bunch of different screenshots. I played around with BFV first and tried to use the same settings I had been using for 2042 and I didn't really like them much. I landed on 88 FOV with ADS FOV ON. Longer sights and recoil felt a lot more manageable with those settings and I could spot people as well. So using the M2 with the 3x felt perfect.
So now I've been playing with 2042 settings, mirroring what I landed on in BFV, and its very playable that way. With 88 FOV, native resolution, and ADS ON people appear much further away. So instead of using a 1.25 - 1.5x scope, I'm now using a 3x comfortably when before the 2x TV sight was borderline too much.
Another observation comes from almost exclusively using the Rorsch MK4 since it was released. I found it much easier to aim at enemies that were wider using a stretched resolution versus a more crisp skinny character model. I tested this using my favorite 4.5 sight. I would maybe feel different being able to compensate using a higher zoom sight, but I really don't like the 6x and plus the glint. I still have to play around with this a bit though.
When taking the screenshots, looking at them, and comparing them to one another I put something circular up to the screen and in native resolution sights are in fact circles. I think playing on an Ultra Wide, the edges of your peripheral vision of the screen tend to distort your sense of scale even more then with a regular monitor. When you load into the game and you are at the Deploy screen, it was obviously designed for a regular 16:9 because everything is centered. With a stretched resolution, the entire screen is filled. I still have to check the UI elements to see if they're actually circles and squares, because they still look a little weird to me.
I still stand by making characters wider though. Even if everything is based off of real world dimensions, it doesn't translate that way in a video game. Looking at a screen versus our eyes in the real world, things look a lot different. I had a VR headset for a little while and was doing some racing in iRacing, and it was just so much easier to get a sense of scale and speed with my vision being completely utilized. There's obviously a ton more variables to that one, but just an example.
- @EA_Atic I just spent over half an hour typing a reply to this and the forums actually just deleted it for some random reason... wtf
This is the monitor I'm using Benq EX3415R
I wanted to say thanks for motivating me to try different settings and take some screenshots. The sights are actual circles when putting something circular up to the screen. The UI elements still look a little oval and like rectangles, but I need to spend a little more time paying attention to that. The game was definitely designed for 16:9 with things like the deployment screen being centered instead of taking up the entire screen, so I think that doesn't help my perception of scale when that's the first thing I see.
I don't think it's the game anymore, and it's not my monitor. It's more to do with how I perceive things and my preferences. I honestly don't really like military shooters all that much, but Battlefield has always been the outlier and my favorite shooter of all time. It has always felt smoother and more fluid kinda like a very toned down Arena shooter if that makes sense.
My preference is definitely characters that are bigger and wider, because that looks more natural to me in a video game setting. When using real world dimensions and applying that to a screen, it just doesn't translate well in my opinion. Things look too tall and skinny. VR is the only exception of that, but it's more than just a screen at that point.
I appreciate you reaching out and replying Atic!I believe the UI elements are rendered separately from everything else and overlayed on top of the game graphics. Some upscaling techniques such as FSR 2.0 render the UI at native 4k resolution for text clarity, but render the rest of the graphics at a lower resolution for increased performance.
So the UI can be stretched, resized, and renderer at different resolutions and aspect ratios without it affecting the actual game graphics because the UI is being rendered separately and overlayed on top of the game graphics.
