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@AdamonicThe aim-assist does not snap to heads. It only snaps to bodies, which is one of the downsides of using it. The single and only major benefit from aim-assist is getting to snap to someone's body, so it basically only benefits extremely low TTK weapons, like shotguns which are instant or DMRs. And that's why you are suddenly seeing a ton of people using the M39 EMR.
That data is meaningless. Assuming aim-assist even factored into headshots, it would still be meaningless because you didn't provide a total number of kills. And even with a total number of kills, it would, yet again, still be meaningless. Skilled players should have around a ~25-30% HS rate TOTAL, as in, of every single kill they have ever gotten with all weapons. In a single match? That could be 50-60% HS kill rate, if they didn't get a ton of kills. The more kills they have in a match, the lower that number will go, so I would be willing to bet that PC player killed significantly more than the console player. I also bet I've had some matches with ~90% headshot kill rates when I've been sniping, honestly. And that still means absolutely nothing. Hell, I have a 30% HS kill rate with the AK24 over 500 kills and a 76.5% HS kill rate with the DXR over 100 kills on PC. Compared to such a tiny sample size as in a single match, 21% isn't even that high of a HS rate when many people can have well over that amount for their entire lifetime stats.
Plus, how do you even know it was a console player? If they had the Xbox icon, it could have been someone playing through GamePass on PC.
@SVND0WN wrote:@AdamonicThe aim-assist does not snap to heads. It only snaps to bodies, which is one of the downsides of using it. The single and only major benefit from aim-assist is getting to snap to someone's body, so it basically only benefits extremely low TTK weapons, like shotguns which are instant or DMRs. And that's why you are suddenly seeing a ton of people using the M39 EMR.
That data is meaningless. Assuming aim-assist even factored into headshots, it would still be meaningless because you didn't provide a total number of kills. And even with a total number of kills, it would, yet again, still be meaningless. Skilled players should have around a ~25-30% HS rate TOTAL, as in, of every single kill they have ever gotten with all weapons. In a single match? That could be 50-60% HS kill rate, if they didn't get a ton of kills. The more kills they have in a match, the lower that number will go, so I would be willing to bet that PC player killed significantly more than the console player. I also bet I've had some matches with ~90% headshot kill rates when I've been sniping, honestly. And that still means absolutely nothing. Hell, I have a 30% HS kill rate with the AK24 over 500 kills and a 76.5% HS kill rate with the DXR over 100 kills on PC. Compared to such a tiny sample size as in a single match, 21% isn't even that high of a HS rate when many people can have well over that amount for their entire lifetime stats.
Plus, how do you even know it was a console player? If they had the Xbox icon, it could have been someone playing through GamePass on PC.
Snap to body + recoil of any weapon = HS. Also, the accuracy rates are similar in that the tracking of moving targets is very similar.
I was comparing known PC players and known console players that I have actually played with. All whom are really good in their own right. What I noticed was the console player had similar kills and KD but when it came to accuracy and HS%, he was higher than PC players and higher than literally the best PC players. There are obviously a lot of factors that go into those stats, preferred weapons, etc, but when I compared like weapons, the majority of the time, the console player had better stats across the board than the PC player. Not all the weapons, but majority of them.
If aim assist is supposed to level the playing field, it should not make console players' aiming stats (accuracy and HS%) better than a comparable PC player, and definitely not make them better than the best PC player on the planet. I am an above-average player, have been playing FPS for a long time, have a 2.0 KD and top 1% PTFOing, yet I would be beaten 1v1 by at least 75% of console players when we are shooting at each other with the same weapon from the same distance solely due to aim assist.
- 2 years ago
Seeing recent controller vids is just insane, it looks 100% like an aimbot at this point who looks at this and thinks yeah that looks fine. G428 very tricky on PC but you watch console any range just snaps and follows perfectly, where pc misses a few shots massively increasing TTK the controller just 2 taps anything. Beyond insane atm.
- 2 years ago@Adamonic Okay, you are pretty much just making things up. https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/leaderboards/stats/all/WeaponKills?page=1
Facts:
PC players significantly outnumber potential console players in weapon kills. (Xbox players could still be playing on PC through GamePass, so the differential could be even larger).
PC players have a fairly consistent ~4-5% higher HS kill rate than console players even with a massively higher number of weapon kills. (Excluding the players who are using body shot preferred weapons like the Ghostmaker and shotguns).
Console players simply do not have better stats than PC players. There is a healthy number of very skilled console players that are competing near the top, which is a GOOD SIGN. It means the game offers a somewhat fair playing field for all players. And those few samples of console players who have astronomical kill counts have a consistently lower HS% than the PC players of similar counts. Which is essentially the largest sample size you can compare, making it the most accurate.
K/D stats are more difficult to compare because there are tons of people fudging the stats by either exploiting or cheating or using vehicles. Most of the extremely high K/D players are reaching that by using the MAV or Little Bird for obvious reasons and that is irrelevant for console vs. PC.
The average console player absolutely does not outperform the average PC player. There are always outliers of either population, and that is a good thing, because it means that players on console are actually capable of competing if they are skilled enough. But they have significantly more hoops to jump through than a PC player to get there.- Adamonic2 years agoLegend
@SVND0WN wrote:
@AdamonicOkay, you are pretty much just making things up. https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/leaderboards/stats/all/WeaponKills?page=1
Facts:
PC players significantly outnumber potential console players in weapon kills. (Xbox players could still be playing on PC through GamePass, so the differential could be even larger).
PC players have a fairly consistent ~4-5% higher HS kill rate than console players even with a massively higher number of weapon kills. (Excluding the players who are using body shot preferred weapons like the Ghostmaker and shotguns).
Console players simply do not have better stats than PC players. There is a healthy number of very skilled console players that are competing near the top, which is a GOOD SIGN. It means the game offers a somewhat fair playing field for all players. And those few samples of console players who have astronomical kill counts have a consistently lower HS% than the PC players of similar counts. Which is essentially the largest sample size you can compare, making it the most accurate.
K/D stats are more difficult to compare because there are tons of people fudging the stats by either exploiting or cheating or using vehicles. Most of the extremely high K/D players are reaching that by using the MAV or Little Bird for obvious reasons and that is irrelevant for console vs. PC.
The average console player absolutely does not outperform the average PC player. There are always outliers of either population, and that is a good thing, because it means that players on console are actually capable of competing if they are skilled enough. But they have significantly more hoops to jump through than a PC player to get there.What? I am not making anything up. I literally played with the players I am talking about, they are both on the leaderboards as top players. Comparing their stats, the console players have higher accuracy on most weapons and overall HS%. There is no way they can do that without aim assist.
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