So many bots...
I find no satisfaction playing against bots. Just trying to find a game is difficult enough. When I do, it's half full of bots. 128 player game in Breakthrough and there are a couple of dozen play...
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Enable cross play. Never had issue since..always in 128 player
game less than 1 min USA.
I'm on PC with cross play enabled in game... I didn't have any problems last week. I'm in Western Australia, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Ive seen my share of AI but was always in off hours like 12am -8am cst. Even then was limited to like 6 per side.
Edit: some matches would start 48 v 48 but fill quickly.
@FlatChat wrote:I'm on PC with cross play enabled in game... I didn't have any problems last week. I'm in Western Australia, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.
That has a lot to do with it.
It's not clear what the criteria for finding a game are but I'm pretty sure that latency is one of them.
There are far fewer people playing than at launch, and you're in a region that is pretty removed from others while also not having a large population.
I'm in a game, some problem finding one, IF being in Australia is the problem, then I don't know why that would be. Particularly when I have NO trouble getting in game in BF4, BF1 or BF V. I have a fast connection.
The major problem is the lack of players in 2042, with lobbies full of bots to compensate. I'm in a game now, but frankly it's not fun playing against a team that is 80% bots...
@FlatChat wrote:I'm in a game, some problem finding one, IF being in Australia is the problem, then I don't know why that would be. Particularly when I have NO trouble getting in game in BF4, BF1 or BF V. I have a fast connection.
The major problem is the lack of players in 2042, with lobbies full of bots to compensate. I'm in a game now, but frankly it's not fun playing against a team that is 80% bots...
Hi @FlatChat ,
@filthy_vegans is absolutely right in his observations with regards to your trouble, unfortunately.
That you write that you "have a fast connection" is a frequent misconception many players have on how they connect to a global multiplayer game online. Your speed on your internet line is typically not the real problem at all, as games like Battlefield typically do not need line speeds higher than around 2-3 Megabit/s downstream to you and like just 700-800 kilobit/s upstream from you to server. Most connected with a fixed line to the Internet can fulfill those requirements.
Where your problem is is actually in the latency. And that is among the top most important aspects in any multiplayer FPS game! Next to this, we also can look at your jitter of the connection, which is an expression of the variance of your latency over time, as that is also a real 'killer' for the game server.
The latency is what makes you potentially completely blocked from accessing a given server, as aka PC players of previous Battlefield games typically would dictate a latency of max 100milli seconds as max limit for access to their hosted servers. Now EA have not been transparent on their servers, network infrastructure or internal cutoff points to merge players together, but there are bound to be some, as technically the servers simply drop a gievn client (a player) if the latency goes above certain timeout limits for response times. Aka it doesn't matter "how fast" your line speed is (aka 100 MB/s) if your time to send that to the server is above 800 milli seconds, due to the travel distance for the signal to go from your location to the server location.
Best case possible of your Australian latency to various cities going through optic fibre all the way can be found here:
https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Sydney
So now try and look at your potential latencies to BF servers hosted in aka: Japan, Singapore, Europe, USA...
And due to the practical layout of the Internet and all the nodes that you typically will need to go through to reach a European based BF server, your latency from ANZ to our servers in aka Rotterdam are typically around 600-800 milli seconds.
@FlatChat I'm in WA too, Xbox X player and have massive problems (cross-play on). After about 9pm Perth time, I'm waiting for players to kick off a game (I'm waiting right now and have been for half an hour - hence on the forums digesting the hate from the BF community). When I do get in a game it's populated by around 70% AI. I just don't understand why when they have no problems filling up a game with bots they don't just kick it off with a few players and replace bots as players join? (actually, there is so much I don't understand about this game)
@Squiddles5312 Good to see a fellow Groper on the forum (keep 'em guessing...lol).
Actually I was playing from 8PM to 9PM (my bedtime...5AM rise) last night (31/1). I got into a few 128 Breakthrough games pretty well straight away, and there didn't seem to be any bots. I know there were players from Oz from the chat. But on other nights, there were clearly players in the US which I could also tell from the chat.
The times that I find lots of bots in 2042 are weekdays, at least in the mornings until early afternoon, which is kind of surprising, as I would have thought that is when there would be more players online in Oz. Certainly that is my experience playing BFV when the server browser showed Oz games full at those times (not so much early morning), leaving only Indonesian servers (more of them and lower ping, in Perth anyway due to geographic proximity). The Indo servers were actually pretty good, plenty of them and fast, no lag and heaps of players (mainly Indonesian) who were usually pretty good solo, but lack team play skills (no reviving at all). A cultural difference I think. I know many Oz players who preferred the Indo servers, despite the team play and language/communication issue in chat. They just wanted to PLAY HARD.
Apart from the really poor sterile maps, I really miss the server browser so that I know where and who I'm playing. That was a BIG mistake for DICE/EA not to include it in 2042.
I certainly agree that we shouldn't be waiting for games (sometimes I have to quit and go back to the lobby and try again several times) and that the fillers (idiotic characters and their lines, animations etc) in between games are HUGE TIME WASTERS. People just don't have time to sit there waiting to get into a quick game...very frustrating.
So having the ability to jump into a game, even if just full of bots would be far better than sitting there waiting and not knowing whether you will get into a game at all. I imagine that no more than 50% of my time in 2042 is actually playing the game. That is a pretty poor state of play. In BF V and 1, I could always find a game, if not in Oz, then in Indonesia.
On a side note: As much as I enjoy posting here on EA Answers, I find it extremely frustrating that this is all in vain in regard to making the game better. I have yet to hear any devs on this forum. It's as though we are offering up all this rich dialog and feedback that the devs could use, but alas there is not the slightest hint that is the case. Hello?
@FlatChat (lol@sandgropers - they probably think we have a fetish for dirt!)
Yeah, omitting server browsers is one of the more questionable "Legacy Features" the EA Dice team decided upon! I'm not going to repeat the sentement of so many comments throughout the forums that I read whilst waiting over an hour to try and get into a game last night (9:30pm to 10:45pm, Breakthrough, crossplay enabled and my wife calling me * for persisting so long to try and play a game). I tried everything including reseting my router, restarting my Xbox Series X and as a last resort I thought I'd play a Portal game just so I could have a game before I went to bed and despite the server saying there were 38/64 players in a Rush game, the same thing happened - "waiting for other players" with a full squad.
This leads me to believe that despite the fact that players have abandoned the game like rats off a sinking ship, this is probably yet another serious bug in the networking code that yep, frustrates more players to uninstalling and moving on.
I shut down my system last night and said to my wife, "Yep, Battlefield is dead" 😢
