Split Consoles form PC's
I know it may be an unpopular opinion and that it may not take effect in 2042, but they should split up PC's from consoles in the next game at least if they are going to keep cross play. The spec dif...
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@AngrySquid270 wrote:I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.
Look at the statistics. I have triple the hours you do, but you outperform me in HS% with a lot of the hard to use smgs with a controller! I’m using a super light x on a 20” mousepad with low sensitivity. I sit at a desk with a low latency monitor.
Some of my base accuracy is probably off a bit due to pre-firing, shooting out windows constantly, and other nonsense. I literally have to run extended mags on everything and drag my crosshair back and forth to find people’s hit boxes. Aim assist takes care of that for you.
If controller players think aim assist is nothing, try turning it off for a week. I promise you that your stats will plummet. I’ve watched pros struggle hard after turning it off and perform very average.
Whenever I look up stats, it’s almost always console players having higher accuracy rates than MnK players. That’s just not right.
@RaginSam wrote:
@AngrySquid270 wrote:I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.
Look at the statistics. I have triple the hours you do, but you outperform me in HS% with a lot of the hard to use smgs with a controller! I’m using a super light x on a 20” mousepad with low sensitivity. I sit at a desk with a low latency monitor.
My 122 kills with the K30 isn't a meaningful sample size; that's a junk data point.
For our most used SMG, the MP9, we have identical HS% at 20.3%..
Here's what those stats also say.
My MP9 hipfire kill% = 2.9%
Your MP9 hipfire kill% = 21.4%
You go for hipfire kills 7x more than I do, yet we still have the same HS%. Yet you claim this as evidence that Aim Assist is out of control in favor of console?
Further I'm probably an outlier among consoler players. I've been playing the franchise for 20+ years. I trade everything for accuracy control. I run low sensitivity. I run the minimum FoV. All my attachment choices are for accuracy. And as mentioned I rarely hipfire. Compare my accuracy stats to the next 5 console players that kill you; I'd guess mine are better.
Let's look at another stat. KDR between BFV and BF2042.
I went from a 2.8 KDR in BFV to a 2.09 in BF2042
You went from a 3.16 KDR in BFV to a 5.14 in BF2042.
And yet you are claiming to be the victim of crossplay?
Just split the consoles from PC. Neither side will ever see it as fair, the debates are just emotion and hyperbole from both sides. Have the last word.
- @AngrySquid270 Shhhh, don’t bring factual statistics into this debate 🤣
For real tho i just want Console only back… this whole Console vs PC crossplay experiment is a mess. And it’s not only the BF community complaining, I’ve seen it in the Halo Infinite and CoD community. It’s a disaster and rightfully so…., @AngrySquid270I played a bit different in BFV than I do in BF2042. Plus, the maps fit my style more. Comparing different Battlefield games isn't exactly fair either.
Your stats MP9:
Kills: 454
Accuracy: 24.6%
HS: 20.3%
My Stats MP9:
Kills: 2,489
Accuracy: 16.3%
HS: 20.3%
I also setup my SMG's to have low recoil for hip firing and I push VERY aggressively when I equip it. I exclusively use it in CQC. I'll hip fire, then going into ADS to clean up.
The K30 perfectly illustrates my point. Not having attachments and experience with a weapon and you out perform a mouse player.
You forgot to mention my overall accuracy. The HS% is a sub percentage of Accuracy. So, I land 20% HS of 15%, right? You're still hitting more shots with a gun that's harder to use for a mouse player.
I'm not saying that I'm a "victim" of cross play. It's that my jaw drops at all the times I die to some crazy shot, almost always done by a controller player.Any interests in collecting the final scoreboards across many matches from many players, so we can make real statistics based on real hard factual numbers? This way we can get a better grip on reality on similarities and differences in performance for players across the 3 platform.
If so, happy to do the collection of the scoreboards in my direct inbox here on this forum. I can then anonymize the player names and start publishing the summarized data out to you all.
Many questions we have today will thereby be enabled to be answered by factual objective hard data.
Let me know you thoughts?
Guess it depends on the game, but controller players have higher accuracy in Halo and Call of Duty.
Halo
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/r4pqtl/top_kbm_players_are_barely_over_the_50th/
Call of Duty developer quote:
"When we did the last game, one of our biggest concerns at that time was players on mouse and keyboard versus players using controllers. Finding the balance on that. It’s an interesting thing, because I wish it was a linear spectrum. You can see that a very highly skilled player on mouse and keyboard is fantastic compared to controller. Everybody else on a mouse and keyboard seems to be at a disadvantage statistically, is what we see."
https://venturebeat.com/games/infinity-ward-answers-modern-warfare-ii-questions/
