Split Consoles form PC's
I know it may be an unpopular opinion and that it may not take effect in 2042, but they should split up PC's from consoles in the next game at least if they are going to keep cross play. The spec dif...
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@OskooI_007 wrote:Guess it depends on the game, but controller players have higher accuracy in Halo and Call of Duty.
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"When we did the last game, one of our biggest concerns at that time was players on mouse and keyboard versus players using controllers. Finding the balance on that. It’s an interesting thing, because I wish it was a linear spectrum. You can see that a very highly skilled player on mouse and keyboard is fantastic compared to controller. Everybody else on a mouse and keyboard seems to be at a disadvantage statistically, is what we see."
Thank you @OskooI_007 ,
And YES, exactly the kind of stats we need to see for BF2042 to determine the factor the player's gaming platform provides in player's success in the BF2042 game!
And YES, it totally depends on each game. So numbers from one game cannot be used for this purpose to make the case for other games. As it is the developers that fiddle around with the parameters that decides how our control inputs are deciphered and then changing the movements/aiming/trigger actions in the game itself.
Btw, I am very surprised to see such a very high accuracy rate in that other non-EA game you had data from. It is much much higher versus our accuracy rates in Battlefield. Also the aim assist shown in the video is like robot precise automation, and far away and much better then anything we have in the BF game. So that may also explain the insane high accuracy also.
The Developer shared an important notion. Namely that the accuracy spectrum across the players from noob to average to top 100 is far from linear!
And that is one of the biggest challenges for making FPS games interesting for everybody. But in these provided graphs we can see that they have managed to bring them somewhat close and that the two platforms do overlap with each other. Ideally they should be brought closer, so here they should turn down just a bit the aim assist for the consoles. Also another thing to observe is that we are within just a 5-7% margin, which is really minor when looking at the bigger picture.
Also great to observe that the very good players are still able to become substantially better than the average player, as this indicates they have still a relevant learning curve within the game and it has not been fully dummed down. Having a learning curve ensures the game has long-term durability, and that with more practice comes better results. And that is the encouraging incentive to players and important to keep them around and coming back to play more.
@CyberDyme Would these stats be all that useful in regard to Battlefield? I've never played Halo but the few CoD's I tried had small heavily segmented maps. Even the longest distance in terms of player engagement would barely count as medium range in BF.
In terms of gathering data would 'Battlefield Tracker' be useful? They used to record individual weapon accuracy with each gun across all major platforms.
In terms of gathering data would 'Battlefield Tracker' be useful? They used to record individual weapon accuracy with each gun across all major platforms.
@BFB-Praetorian wrote:
@CyberDymeWould these stats be all that useful in regard to Battlefield? I've never played Halo but the few CoD's I tried had small heavily segmented maps. Even the longest distance in terms of player engagement would barely count as medium range in BF.
In terms of gathering data would 'Battlefield Tracker' be useful? They used to record individual weapon accuracy with each gun across all major platforms.Hi @BFB-Praetorian ,
We cannot use this data from other games to compare or make anything meaningful out of it for the BF2042. But the methodologies and the findings for BF2042 would follow the same principles, but it all would and should rely on gaming data entirely collected from the BF2042 game only.
If we had things around today for BF2042 as BattleTracker or BattleLog, then that would be extremely helpful indeed. And essentially we would not have these ongoing heated arguments between the different game platform players now playing together in cross-play, as having the performance numbers tracked officially would put most claims to rest.
I would without having to ask anybody here online be able to pull out BattleLog game records from aka 1,000 games on the Discarded map in All-Out-Warfare mode. And then be able to tell with certainty things like:
- How many players are playing in average in crossplay from each platform?
- What is the hit accuracy in average for players on each platform?
- What is in average the number of kills for players across the 3 platforms and what is the distribution of kills by platform (aka. how many standard deviations to cover 90% of all)?
- How many kills are done with what land- or air-vehicles on that map versus infantry, and what % of these are done by players on which platform?
- What is the XP level and spread of this of the players attending across the 3 platforms?
- Are players from any platform dominating in terms of overly represented in the top-10 players in total kills for any game round?
- Are players from any platform more victims in terms of overly represented in the top-10 players in total death for any game round?
- Is number of kills the most contributing factor for high XP scores in this game or are the incentives sufficiently high, so also team- and squad collaboration is encouraged by sufficiently high XP bonus points?
- What specialists are in average scoring the highest and lowest XPs in this game and compared across the platforms?
- Which weapons are in average scoring the highest number of kills in this game and compared across the platforms?
- Which air- and land-vehicles are in average scoring the highest number of kills in this game and compared across the platforms?
- Etc etc etc...
Essentially many questions/disputes we have today would be able to be settled by hard objective facts instead of current conspiracy theories or indeed well-meant gut feelings.
