Undoubtedly the strongest specialist for anyone playing objectives...1) Can glide across the map given a few feet of elevation to jump off of giving better maneuverability/mobility than most vehicles.2) No cooldown on wingsuit3) Anti armor grenades can now fly after air vehiclesLike sure, Boris and others are strong but most specialist have one strong utility and the other is just a quirky gimmick. If you look at any higher ranked players they're often playing Sundance and theres a reason for it

I think her grenades were always supposed to attack air vehicles (the big problem before was them prioritizing far away air vehicles over ground targets close up), but yeah the overall utility of the build is too great for BF in my opinion (though I still prefer OP Angel).I don't mind the idea of a wingsuit but I would like to see it either be rendered useless via bullet holes and/or not allow it to be deployed 1 foot off the ground (basically you need to wind up like Super Mario Bros 3's tanuki suit)

@X-Sunslayer-X wrote:@A-RAF2019Boris is a parasite in this game....I agree, Boris should not be in the game. And so don't all the other specialists.But do not worry. The feedback 'loop' for the specialists will be coming SOON(tm).😉

Pretty much all the specialists have issues with balancing. The whole specialist concept is flawed from a gameplay point of view, unless you're making a battle royale type of affair.Of course, from a monetarization point of view, specialists are awesome. Imagine the action figure revenue.It's pretty clear why Dice put them into this game, and equally clear why they're not going to take them out.Which makes it rather interesting as to how Dice intend to approach the specialist feedback loop. I think the reason its taking so long to deliver on this, is that they're having trouble creating a set of questions that narrows the scope enough to avoid the issue of specialists as a whole, without looking like its the meaningless exercise it actually is.

@A-RAF2019 Boris is a parasite in this game.last time i played i have had Boris players opt out to engage me in the gunfight instead they place their turret, prone right next to it, let the turret 3D spot me, and then if i haven't killed them already they try and shoot in my general direction...the issue is the turret has already hit me about 2-4 times by that time so i am already at about half HP before these "gamers" can be bothered to actually play the game instead of letting a crutch-mechanic play it for them.On top if i then kill the player i still have to kill the turret that still has the boost from having the slug bleeding out next to it......what a time to be alive

Death to specialists. All of them.

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RAF2042
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@X-Sunslayer-X I hear you. I hate the turrets.

Why the hell would they spot on top of firing? Just suppress (I wish this game had real suppressing mechanics) firing at a certain direction IS SPOTTING! Just like the ranger does!

If I could balance this game, turrets would be EASIER TO DESTROY, EXPLODE IN THIS PROCESS TO HURT ANY BORIS HIDING NEAR IT, no increased performance for staying near it ⭐ and it would not "spot". On the other hand, Boris would be allowed to place two turrets at once and the cooldown would shorter, but the cooldown would relate to a time-to-live for each turret, i.e., cooldown = 2x time to live. Time to live is about 30 s, and if over it, it self destroys ***UNLESS BORIS IS THERE TO FIX IT, and in this case, the turret can have increased performance, so that is a nice touch! The turret only have increased performance when Boris cannot fire. Maybe add a visual scanner that you can look at when Boris is repairing it, so he can see the spotting while looking at the turret and have an idea of distance and 360 position.

So a turret would never stay in one place for "turret campers"
RAF2042
Rising Ace
4 years ago
Oh, yeah, and they should explode when downed, not when dead after 40 seconds.
When I play with Boris and I die, I get some free kills, and it helps clear the area for my team mates revive me. The goddamn turret even stays there spotting. If it is not on line of sight and beeping, the team mates know it is clear.
I feel cheap when I play with Boris.
RAF2042
Rising Ace
4 years ago
Oh yeah, and I wish I could hack turrets to turn them against the other team.
Anyway, back to Sundance, she is balanced. Nothing to worry too much about.
For me, she and McKay are "assault" and they both do this job well.
LlamaWithKatana
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@A-RAF2019 Irish can make a difference on defence.
RAF2042
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@Necromantion wrote:actly, Boris isnt hard to avoid. Meanwhile she can fly anywhere off anything and has "Grenades" that lock on to air vehicles and fly after them doing the same or more damage than a rocket? lol
It does less than a rocket, doesn't it? I think it does between 10-20 DMG, and it has a distance limitation.
Sundance is good to play the objective. I play mostly with Angel and her.
I don't think the loadouts are tricky to swap. Everything gives away your position, but the loadout crate should always be places behind cover to let you switch without taking risks.
Anyway, an exploit I do is, I have a beacon loadout between two flags of interest in an inconspicuous area, place a crate near it, and every time I don't have a good spawn on squad mates or flags, I pick the beacon loadout, spawn, place a new beacon (the old gets destroyed), move to the loadout crate that was there and get the loadout I really needed.
And I can spawn with Sundance and do that same thing, as long the crate is still there. And it stays there for quite a long time.
Anyway, playing with Angel like having two gadgets at once and being ready for many situations. With the beacon and a crate, I can respawn with sundance, Zipline to a high place, fly to where I wanna go, leave a new beacon there or just be happy with where it was before. Maybe start this loop with a McKay to place a beacon where no one other than a McKay can go.
So, Sundance and Angel are quite good indeed.
But I see Falk, medics, getting the top of the scoreboard a lot, basically because the scoreboard doesn't reward flags too much, but revive = kill, and with assists, they get ranked high.
Paik and Rao are ranked low for me. Irish is lower. Dozer is lowest (maybe due to map design). The rest makes up the regular classes in Battlefield. Ammo crate is irrelevant if you have Angel. Angel is 3 in 1, ammo, reload, armor, ready for any situation switching loadouts, good for himself and for teammates.
The loadout crate is OP. Just setup your loadouts, rename them, and abuse the crate.

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