The ex DICE veterans are a huge loss to this series.
They have absolutely knocked that "other game" just released and free to play out of the park. The levels of detail & polish put this game to shame. Bring them back at all costs.
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@I_DYN4MO_II'm not buying the narrative that Battlefield was good because those devs were working on the game, and because they left it became bad.
Everyone knows 2042 was rushed and EA scaled back the development resources after the bad launch. Details and polish only happen when there's enough resources and time for that. Look at Cyberpunk 2077 before and now, 2042 literally had more detailed water. Even then, every new or reworked map has shown 2042's devs can do good maps. Compare literally any AoW map to Altai Range, Silk Road (even pre-rework Hourglass felt like it might be better), Operation Whiteout, Giants of Karelia or who knows what else.
There was a 2042 UI/UX designer dunking on Elden Ring's UI, who left 2042. After some updates, 2042 now has a settings menu that handily beats Onion Ring's, off is not the same as low Fromsoft! And it's a step above the settings menu of many other games that in their enum options will use an arbitrary number of very low, low, medium, high, very high, ultra, and randomly pick if the specific setting ends on high, very high or ultra, AND make them loop so you have to guess what the highest is. 2042 has a very simple and clear solution to this.
Was that guy an atrocious UI designer and the game's UI only got good because he left? I kinda doubt it. Again, the game being rushed seems the more likely explanation. UI gets done last. And those settings squares definitely step into polish territory.
Furthermore, I'd like to mention Alara Prime, another game made by the magical ex-Battlefield devs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSOllRWeFnk The game doesn't look to have anything particularly innovative like The Finals, rather it looks like yet another CS clone. We'll see how it goes once it releases but I think this further makes it clear veteran BF devs aren't some magic sauce you add to a game and then it suddenly becomes the best thing ever, and not having them on (like how CS2 doesn't have BF devs) means the game becomes bad.
@Lady_One the difference is on average 2042 has had and will most likely forever have the weakest map-pool in franchise history.
sure older titles had not so great maps but on average they had much much better map pools than 2042 could ever hope to have.
Just naming a few from the last two main titles
- Amiens
- Rotterdam
- Devastation
- Marita
- St.Quentin
- Achi Baba
- Argonne Forest
- Nivelle
- Prise De Tahure
- Provence
- Ballroom Blitz
What does 2042 as pure 2042 maps actually have? I doubt any fan will foam at their mouths for a remake of Kaleidoscope or Orbital anytime soon....
- @sk1lld Maybe we might see it back in season 7. What if that Middle-East map that is on the table in that teaser with Ryan McArthur points towards Doha Qatar and we get a reworked infantry only map built around the stadium?
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Or Hourglass, I miss the stadium why did they have to remove it?At some point they explained that they are engine/hardware limited at how many object the maps can have.
So in order to fix the launch maps so that they are less barren and pristine, they need to remove some objects so they can place other objects elsewhere
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@sk1lld wrote:
@X-Sunslayer-X
Or Hourglass, I miss the stadium why did they have to remove it?At some point they explained that they are engine/hardware limited at how many object the maps can have.
So in order to fix the launch maps so that they are less barren and pristine, they need to remove some objects so they can place other objects elsewhere
Thats sad, I don't know much about programing I do know that whoever they "EA/DICE" hired had to be good programmers because of how complicated the Frostbite engine is. The BR play really hurt this title no real classes really was a bad design, not to mention friend and foe with the same uniforms.
After this I will wait before next purchase and read reviews and user feedback before any new EA purchase.
- @X-Sunslayer-X Redacted, Reclaimed, Exposure, the new Breakaway, Spearhead and maybe Manifest are all great maps, I would say post-rework Hourglass is good though most people, including me and the person above me, will remember it as "the map that they removed the stadium from". Well, a remake can include that stadium, so, I'm foaming at the mouth for a stadium version.
- @Lady_One is 2042 by any chance your first or second BF game?
