@killCAMPERS
Did you get a chance to try the Official Weekly Portal Experiences.
On PC, the servers will auto fill with bots to get the server going, and then should fill with other human players to replace the bots over time, does the same apply to consoles. ?
I personally would also like to see the numbers of players needed to start rounds in AOW reduced from 32 (in 128 player modes) to say 8 just to get the servers going. So many players join and then leave as they don't want to wait so long for 32 players to join.
Once servers get going they fill up fairly quickly so I am not sure why the level needed to start is set so high at 32.
@killCAMPERS wrote:
@RayD_O1That would be awesome.
I don't play COD anymore because their servers are garbage. BF has always had superior servers despite having a fraction of the player base of COD. As much as I have issues with BF, COD is way worse.
BF is the one and only FPS war game I like playing. So, I hope the console side gets more love now and in future BF releases.
BF is the only series worth playing IMO. I may dip a toe into a Star Wars game (not trying the new one on PC anytime soon thatās for sure) but for good multiplayer action you just canāt do better than a BF series game for fun. Maybe 2042 will finally make it on the list if they help at it, but Iām not sure if theyāre even still working on PC optimizations anymore. Even if vehicle warfare isnāt your thing, the goal was to try the game with Crossplay Off and see how it feels for you. Iām curious how impactful it is on consoles? 2042 was designed for consoles and ported to PC as are all AAA games now, if you folks get any more love over PC theyāll just be ghosting us in our texts š
@ATFGunr wrote:BF is the only series worth playing IMO. I may dip a toe into a Star Wars game (not trying the new one on PC anytime soon thatās for sure) but for good multiplayer action you just canāt do better than a BF series game for fun. Maybe 2042 will finally make it on the list if they help at it, but Iām not sure if theyāre even still working on PC optimizations anymore. Even if vehicle warfare isnāt your thing, the goal was to try the game with Crossplay Off and see how it feels for you. Iām curious how impactful it is on consoles? 2042 was designed for consoles and ported to PC as are all AAA games now, if you folks get any more love over PC theyāll just be ghosting us in our texts š
IMO, it's not the clients that need fixing any longer; it's the servers - my boy used to get less than 60fps at 1080p with a 3060. He now gets ~120. CQ128 is just awful, in terms of performance at busy times like the weekends. Double XP events don't help either.
Turning off crossplay helps it, but we still have the issue of lower rank players getting a rather obvious boost, which often feels like playing against console players. The lock shots, the instant death, the bullet sponge players. Always low rank. They have zero recoil and rapid fire on some of the worst weapon setups for close range, most often the SVK with stock 4 power scope and high power rounds, which are atrocious for accuracy and speed at close range against a moving target. Yet they always miraculously manage it.
@RayD_O1I did. I played mostly with bots. The wait time was about 2 minutes before connecting to a match.
They really need to work on the cross play performance. It shouldn't be as bad as it is.
The cross play on COD was better. Unfortunately, their servers got worse over time. At release I would get on COD servers with a 24 ping. Three months later, I can't get on anything better than 75. Which means lots of lag and insta-deaths. That's when I uninstalled COD and vowed never to return to COD.
Was in the room between C1 and C2 covering the hallway. Wildcat drives by and missiles me through the walls.
There are several disturbing things about this
DICE still catering to the Short Bus players
This is still one of the worst things plaguing this game. No wonder the player count is trending right back down to 2022 levels, it is borderline unplayable.
@ATFGunr
The other major benefit is the fact that you only have to wait to join a server once.
Then you just stay on that same server for as long as you like playing through the whole map rotation. No more back and forth to the lobby which wastes so much time, and no more getting put into the same map.
Playing in the afternoons on PC (UK), I regularly see 10 to 20 humans per side and the rest bots. Some regions may not yet have many players with cross play off.
@killCAMPERS wrote:
@Padding_Ur_StatsI can relate. Iāve had many similar experiences. Besides the cross play issues, I think there are hacker issues as well. Iām betting the devs are working on the next BF, so their resources are being stretched.
this game is flush with hackers. I was in Valpariso and I was killed at 200 meters while running with a K30, all head shots, none missed from 212 meters (according to the kill banner)
@Padding_Ur_Stats Over the past week I had a couple of instances of players under the rank of 15 who could not be killed. Unload full mags on them with the MTAR at close range, even the Super 500, and they just won't die. Blitzed one, they tanked the full mag, got behind something, healed. Drop down, engage them, full mag again, they tank it, kill me. Later I see them pass a doorway, go after them. They instantly turn around, tank the mag again, instantly kill me.
Second instance was a rank 14 using an SVK in default load out (high power rounds + Raven 4x scope) within 15m. Shoot them, get hit, get hit again instantly in the head. No effect on their aim as they're being hit by automatic gunfire. Reappear later around the same flag, instantly runs at me. Shoot them again, nothing. One hit headshot with G57.
A pattern I notice is these players only seem to hang around for round, get a high KDR (always under 10 deaths) then vanish. Given the relatively small pool of players I encounter online when crossplay is switched off, its odd I never end up seeing them again. There was a rather blatant one last year, right after Exposure came out. Low rank, claimed they'd just come back into the game. Four back to back rounds running a PP-19 with over 90-120 kills per round on foot. Disappeared after I called them out, never came back to the game.
They commonly claim they're getting the score from farming bots, but what doesn't add up is you stlll have to run and find those bots to take them out, and you've got dozens of other players actively doing the same thing. Their score per minute just doesn't add up. If I played solo, where its exclusively bots, you'd still be hard pressed to rack that score up over a round before it was over. Simply because you're not encountering enough targets, and that's when I'm the one doing most of the shooting in the match. Throw in human players, and the opportunities get even less.
pp19 the wep of choice for the "professional" gamer , that happens to be imo the worst gun available coupled with their magic esp im sure they are having a wonderful time. mind you i might be imagining all this with only 500 hours on this particular game even with taking a year off it and playing the bf titles since 2006. :/
@22SAS-MRBEA I frequently try out weapons I see people dominating with, and the effects of those weapons often leave much to be desired. Its a frequent giveaway that something is amiss when they're knocking skulls at 50m in two shots, but you'd have to dump half the mag at minimum to land a kill, if it lands the kill at all before they scoot out of the way. PP-19 was one of those weapons, where they blow five people away on one mag every single time at like 20m plus, but you're having to expend so many rounds to get a single kill.
In that round there I was running on the FNB mode, which if BF3 vs BC2 era. I was running a scout kit with the M24 and the MP443, and made it up to 15 kills running around between flags using it close quarters. Immediately I noticed something wasn't right based on the previous round: an enemy sniper one hit killed me with the M24, to the body, at over 150m. I was shooting people within 30m and below and it was two hits to kill. Anyway, go 15 kills, no deaths, then get instantly located and shot by a low rank player. From that point on, instantly found and shot by a multitude of low rank players. Several of whom had bullets pass straight through their heads multiple times.
Another parachuted out and ate a full pistol mag. Shrugs it off, kills me. Another fired a rocket (which I saw them about to do) as I jumped from a cliff. I was over 20ft and below a ledge when it hit the cliff, yet it nearly killed me outright. When I fired a SMAW (same weapon) at the ground within five feet of an enemy around a corner when I ran dry on my primary, it did nothing. In an earlier match I shot a T-90 TEN times with an M1 cannon before it got about 5hp, and then the kill was stolen by an A-10. My tank then took three hits and exploded instantly.
Sometimes when you snipe people seem to automatically move out of the way or just stop/change direction at the absolute perfect moment before even knowing they're being aimed at. Its like an automatic reaction to the trigger being pulled. If they're standing still, they'll move. If they're sprinting, even in the open, they'll just stop dead for no reason so the shot doesn't hit. Shots will go up, down, regardless of being aimed at the same spot. If you're fired at, or hit, its like you're under old suppression effects. But enemies are not.
There absolutely is a shadow system running in the game as well that increases difficulty as you approach certain kill milestones. I've noticed its every 20 kills, the difficulty ramps up big time, frequently making it a chore to get to 20 or 40 or 60. Enemies will take more shots from you, but die easier to friendlies, delaying you reaching that score. Or they will kill you more easily. This happens so much that it cannot be a one off thing. Its literally all the time. It doesn't make sense to be playing against the same people and doing well and then all of a sudden they turn into pro shots who instantly know where you are, where you're going, and just take more damage than previously.
@killCAMPERS wrote:
@ATFGunrItās definitely smoother. And - magically - I donāt get insta-killed The bots are dumb though. I see bots run right by me all the time without reacting to my obvious presence. Thatās one reason I hate playing with bots.
Thatās great, and for me just further proof that itās crossplay thatās broke. Not a shocker really. I donāt love fighting bots either. Thereās not any challenge to it and farming is just not the same as playing a chaotic round with real peeps who are playing their arses off. I have noticed the odd issue with Off that I believe is based on other players being from out of region. Iāll have a usual ping of 27 and a server latency of 27 up to 29. Occasionally itāll jump to 44 and I know another player is here and theyāre from out of region. The server is trying to compensate for their connection. Usually the worst it gets is an ALAT of 35 which is fine. Higher than that and it gets laggy AF. I think a browser would solve this issue as I could find a server I get a good connection to and they could limit out of region pings.
