@Stew360 wrote:
@EdwinSpanglerIts irrevelant to me if based on false premises or lies or ignorance or misconception about past BF ..
And if anything the 2042 haters have been bullying contents creators to a point they are even carefull about not showing to love the game to much as if it was prohibited ... So you are totally reversing real roles here...
Poeoples who critics the emotional response and childish hatefull behaviors are not bullys they dont force poeoples to dislike whatever and follow a hive mind mentality ..
Opinions are only considered valid when they are back up by evidences and strong arguments .. Saying past BF had better teamplay is completely false i can bring back countless forums rants from BFbc2 , BF3 , Bf4 era where poeoples complain about getting steamrolled and their medics not reviving their support not giving amo their engi not repairing and so on..
The issues in 2042 are the same as previous BF and just feel amplified for some by the 128 players count the lack of structure VOIP between squads .. no command structure divided in commander , plattoon leaders , squad leaders etc..we are still stuck into a squad individualism focus as 12vs12 BFBC ...
The so call " legacy features " like servers browser are in portal where it belongs .. And the astonishing reality that these so call " veterans " refuse to play portal because it lack " progressions " of medals and skins they claim to dislike is pretty much a red flag with their real intentions...
Portal was a " love letter " to the fans and allowed past experiences in the new engine .. bugs aside there is a lots of content and custumizable experiences ...
Old school BF players didn't had progression or skins etc.. yet they played BF games for years ... Just food for toughts
For someone who claims that these forums are toxic your posts do nothing but enflame people who have a legitimate alternative view to your own.
So you are back to attacking people regarding legacy features with total misconceptions of why people do not use Portal. Trying to belittle people is not going to win anyone over to your point of view.
Referring to people who want a server browser as so called veterans and claiming people refuse to play Portal because of lack of progression is another inaccurate statement.
It is has been spelt out to you many times on various threads on these forums why people don't use Portal and the REAL reasons people are requesting a Server Browser.
I have posted an extract from a thread yesterday as a sample of the real reasons we don't play Portal.
@FatherDed wrote:From my experience, portal is a non-entity. Any time I've gone into it, the server browser shows half a dozen or less servers populated with one or two players. So essentially there's nothing there. This is my experience since release.
I can understand people's enthusiasm for it as a concept, that it could be something brilliant. But the current reality is anything but. And I can't see how it goes from nothing to a vibrant community from where it is now. It's in a chicken-egg, lack of critical mass kind of situation.
Maybe I've missed something and others have had different experiences but I'm scratching my head why people are talking about it as being the saving grace of bf2042.
And my reply :
That has been my experience too, I feel Portal is a bit of a ghost town.
A few hardcore servers and as you say a couple of servers with 1 or 2 players that never fill up.
Like many others I had great hopes for Portal and thought it had great potential, unfortunately in reality it is dead in the water.
It would take a lot to turn Portal into the go to place for the masses and sadly t will probably only serve a niche market looking for a custom experience.
And this post regarding why people prefer a server browser over MM. :
MM may be working in AOW as DICE intended and it may suit your needs but imho it is no substitute for a proper server browser. (Portal is not an option in it's current state and no one is using it).
In BFV and previous BF's I was able to use the server browser :-
To see the server name and location.
I was able to find a match in seconds which suited my requirements that I was able to specify using the browser filter.
I knew how many players were on the server before I joined.
I was able to stay on that server for a few hours or longer if required.
Importantly I was able to play through the whole map rotation uninterrupted.
Play with friends or build a rapport with a squad round after round.
In MM :
I am put in a lobby which then puts me in a server with an unknown number of players. I then wait for players to join.
Sometimes it puts me in a server where the round is almost finished and I then get dumped back to the lobby to start the whole elongated process all over again.
I have had to play the same map several times in a row, so some days i only get to play 2 or 3 off the 7 available maps which gets boring very quickly.
There is no rapport with squads as you get put back to the lobby after every single round.
All in all I find MM very frustrating and spend too much time waiting in menus in comparison to using a server browser.
So to simply say that a server browser only belongs in Portal is a very narrow minded view and not considering the fact that many players do not like MM and want a Server Browser in AOW like we had in all previous versions of the BF franchise.
As a matter of interest what harm would it do to your gaming experience if a Server Browser was introduced tomorrow. ??
@RayD_O1
Every servers of conquest i join are full always in the base game .. and in 128 players game i dont think you would miss 2 or 3 players here and there temporarely replaced by bots and replace by players in a minute or so .. Breaktrough tho late at night here is more 1/3 bots 2/3 humans
There is no reasons and no need what so ever to get servers browsers in matchmaking matches .. since they are so quick to fill .. Servers browser was a thing in past BF because the game was flooded with custum servers mixed with regular servers with all sort of silly rules and damage values and bannable offense for using a grenade type and what not ...Of Metro24/7 farms fest and so on ..
The current system is perfectly adapted for the base game and the servers browser is already in portal where it belong so stop pretending it does not exist .. Also if peoples played the " base game " inside portal you would get XP and you would have servers browser ... so yeah
@Stew360 wrote:@RayD_O1
Every servers of conquest i join are full always in the base game .. and in 128 players game i dont think you would miss 2 or 3 players here and there temporarely replaced by bots and replace by players in a minute or so .. Breaktrough tho late at night here is more 1/3 bots 2/3 humans
There is no reasons and no need what so ever to get servers browsers in matchmaking matches .. since they are so quick to fill .. Servers browser was a thing in past BF because the game was flooded with custum servers mixed with regular servers with all sort of silly rules and damage values and bannable offense for using a grenade type and what not ...Of Metro24/7 farms fest and so on ..
The current system is perfectly adapted for the base game and the servers browser is already in portal where it belong so stop pretending it does not exist .. Also if peoples played the " base game " inside portal you would get XP and you would have servers browser ... so yeah
So when exactly have I ever pretended that Portal doesn't exist ? Please stop stating non facts.
You obviously do not read posts fully. I have stated many times why MM is not suitable for me and many others but you chose to imply that my main reason is whether the servers are full or have bots.
The main reason I and many others want a proper server browser is the fact that we get dumped back to the lobby after every single round. We can never choose what map to play and can never stay on a server to play through the full map rotation. Many complain about playing the same map too often or never seeing certain maps for days. Tell me what makes that a better system than a server browser I would be interested to know. ?
Your statement that past BF's were flooded with silly custom servers, I was able to play on Official DICE servers everyday in BFV and would be more than happy to play on Official DICE servers in BF2042.
And why should people have to play the base game from inside Portal we never had to go outside the main game in previous BF's to use a server browser. ? Maybe they should just use MM in Portal as it has mostly unpopulated custom servers, how would you feel about that solution ?
Also you never answered the question :
As a matter of interest what harm would it do to your gaming experience if a Server Browser was introduced tomorrow. ??
@RayD_O1
I didnt talk for you personally i dont even know you mate .. I speak about the overall narative .. Peoples claim there is NO servers browser what so ever .. Yet Portal have a servers browser since dayone . Modifiers for Hardcore mode etc,... a moddable experience available to all .. Tons of vehicles weapons skins and maps remade for the game ..
Yeah 2042 has some flaws but the devs when beyong anything done in the past to get spit in the face by ungratefull peoples .. If i was them i would say Screw them ..
The game is not more buggy or broken than past BF games overall BF4 was literally unplayable for a year .. BFV had as much if not more insane bugs and stuff and most peoples laughs at them instead of making video montage of them to make it as " Anti promotional videos " to hate on the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptfbke3lGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptfbke3lGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixuc0iVb4e0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixuc0iVb4e0
Poeples like " Angryjoe " the youtuber reviewer casual couch gamer .. To hate on BF used all these " video montage of glitch " with silly flute stuff made to make the game apear totally utterly broken ... wich wasnt the game i have not experienced once most of these in 450 hours ... Of doing everything .. Jets , Helis , Tanks , Infantry , All weapons etc..
So there is limits to dishonesty ...
3.2 run poorly on my end or at least there is something weird with the servers since 3.2 and broke lots of things that were not broken prior to that for me .. And i have no problem saying it ... but i wont hate on the whole game for it ..and i wont lie about features that are in the game in portal because " i want medals " and progressions .. yet what portal players did with progressions ? Glitch the hell out of it to get medals they dont deserve for what ? Skins and Medals they consider bad and cringe ?
How strange all that is ...
