@Kyosji wrote:
@Stew360Only issue is you have no say in matchmaking. You are forced to join whatever map it decides to put you on with whatever players, whether it be bots or players. It doesn't care about your wants or needs. Played renewal 4 times in a row? How about a 5th? Oh look! A game that has 150 tickets left, I know you want to play here!
Matchmaking simply is just forced play, and doesn't care if you're having fun or not. Old school server browsers gave you choices, which is what players want. Sadly, though, Battlefield players are not the target audience for Battlefield 2042.
Very good points.
To sum up :
A server Browser offers the choice to play the game the way you want to with who you want to and for as long as you want to you.
You can stay on a server and play through the whole map rotation with your squad / friends.
That's the way I want to play BF2042.
MM on the other hand forces you to play the map of its choice, play with new players after each map, and kicks you back to the lobby after every round to start it all again.
On many occasions you are put into the same map or the round ends after a minute or two which is very frustrating. At times, I have not been able to play my favorite map for a couple of days because of MM, how is that fun. ?
So to sum up as you say @Kyosji a Server Browser is all about choices and MM is all about forcing you to play the game you paid for the way it decides.
I know which I prefer. 😃
@Stew360This is a horrendous take.
#1 This is not CoD and nor Halo, both of which are a different experience all together so matchmaking works (because of the size of teams/maps/gameplay).
#2 Linking progress to a broken and unnecessary matchmaking system will kill anyone's will to play the game as they try to finally get into a usable match for their progression. That's where the browser (if you're going to implement a bad idea like progression locked to having to play all maps) is about 10000x better than matchmaking.
#3 Browsers allow for player choice, which is definitely what players want and deserve. This whole "the big multi billion dollar conglomerate knows best" mentality is how we get a game like 2042.
@Stew360 wrote:
@KyosjiYou shouldn't be able to camp 2 maps or camp 1 side .. Metro 24/7 bs type of thing does not belong in the core experience .. Full map rotation should be required for progressions ..
Also can you choose maps in Halo Core MP ? In COD core MP ? in any games with matchmaking ? No and you shouldn't be ...
Servers browser make sens when custum experience are present not in regular matches ... Allowing poeoples to try to skip and choose maps will only create issues where poeoples wont even give a shot to maps they dont do well right away in .. And crap like this creates the caspian border/ metro24/7 locker24/7 senarios
Once again, no one is asking for custom servers like Metro 24/7 to be in the AOW main game we want to play on DICE Official Servers just like we did up until 3 months ago with BFV.
You say :Full map rotation should be required for progressions ..
Full map rotations are exactly what we are asking for not playing Manifest 5 times in a row, with MM we might as well be playing Metro 24/7 lol. We want map rotations, we want variety.!
You say : Also can you choose maps in Halo Core MP ? In COD core MP ? in any games with matchmaking ? No and you shouldn't be
So you think because Halo / COD don't allow a server browser BF is better to go that route as well whether it improves the player experience or not.? Even though the BF franchise has always had the server browser when COD didn't, that does not seem like a valid reason in my eyes.
You say : Servers browser make sens when custum experience are present not in regular matches ... Allowing poeoples to try to skip and choose maps will only create issues where poeoples wont even give a shot to maps they dont do well right away in .. And crap like this creates the caspian border/ metro24/7 locker24/7 senarios
You would think we were asking for custom servers we are asking for Official DICE servers in AOW plain and simple. Portal is the place for any customisation. I am not sure what you are getting at about people skipping maps etc and once again we don't want these 24/7 servers you keep mentioning so please stick to the facts.
@Stew360It is....by a lot.
#1 The Halo system actually works (both in technical terms and practical).
#2 The matchmaking system was also a part of halo since the beginning and therefore was purpose built as well as an expected system.
The fact that you are willing to give up the autonomy and freedom that browsers afford players is odd.
@Stew360Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldn't enjoy? If I want to play a certain map 24/7, that should be my right. Being forced to play maps you don't want to play is what shouldn't belong in a core experience. Saying otherwise makes you sound like a troll.
2042 matchmaking is just bad. It can make you play the map 10+ times in a row (I can confirm this cause i've had it happen), or make you join a game that's nearly over. It also sucks that you can be enjoying a game with good people, and the game ends and that's it, you lost those people. I was gunning for a heli and we were vibing well and dominating the skies. I wanted to keep that experience going. Matchmaking basically laughed at me and said "F you and your enjoyment" while it put me into a completely new lobby that other person wasn't in. The matchmaking in this game doesn't promote a fun experience, it does the opposite.
@Stew360They do by limiting XP and progression on portal servers. AOW is not like Gears 5...not by a long shot.
