Unbalanced helicopter OP
Being a battlefield fan, I have all the games in the franchise and I'm really trying to give this BF2042 a chance but it seems that you DICE really don't want us to play this game. If a player has me...
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@L3tH4l3rR0r wrote:https://clips.twitch.tv/SucculentSmokySaladMoreCowbell-gYaAq8JjcdhIvzOh But I tHouGhT HeLi OP
Your take away from that video is that the nightbird is balanced or perhaps even underpowered?
@AngrySquid270 my take from that video is that people need to gang up on the pro gamur heli pilot instead of giving him 1vs1 duels
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@AngrySquid270my take from that video is that people need to gang up on the pro gamur heli pilot instead of giving him 1vs1 duelsLOL..I think it is funny that you think BF has real functional “teams”.
I feel like they need to revert the nerf to the Rorsch against Air Vehicles. A helicopter camping a spot would start to get nervous hanging around me too long before, now I’m just saying hi to them, “I’m over here, come get your free kill”.
It’s seriously pathetic how little damage it does now. The Nightbird gets unlimited ammo, flares, and can go wherever it wants, seems fair.
@MiklaDfar it has, find friends and squad up.
- @Man_iLoveFishing Who does the Nightbird need to group up with to be effective? Oh, no one? That’s definitely teamwork.
@MiklaDfar wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@AngrySquid270my take from that video is that people need to gang up on the pro gamur heli pilot instead of giving him 1vs1 duelsLOL..I think it is funny that you think BF has real functional “teams”.
They will learn to work together.
Or they will get farmed.
Human society has developed by cooperation and specialization.
Not by begging deities to solve their problems
- @RaginSam Spot and repair for instance. And what makes you think squad plays one vehicle only? Me as nb and others with ram.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
@RaginSamSpot and repair for instance. And what makes you think squad plays one vehicle only? Me as nb and others with ram.You missed the point. The Nightbird is mostly used by one person and has more potential lethality output then any other vehicle, by ONE single person! Maybe the Super Hind can be just as effective, but it needs a squad to do so.
Everyone keeps talking about teamwork and how the game is designed around that, what’s the philosophy behind the Nightbird then? It only takes one person to man a tank effectively, but it’s slow, easier to avoid, and WAY easier to coordinate and kill. See the difference? One tool isn’t balanced like the other.
The Nightbird isn’t purely skill. These people can’t get those kills in any other way. They wouldn’t be able to do the same thing in any Tank or as an Infantry player.
@RaginSamNot entirely true. Learning to fly this thing takes some time. You'll be crashing with it more then you think. And also, it all depends of teams output and enemies team skills to counter. You can fly and get some kills with it, but running 50:0 is already hard asf with mg and agm. Avoiding all that danger, that field offers is pure skill. And now when there is TOR, you need to fly low, you need to find cover and so on. What i did, I practiced in own empty portal server to handle it. It just how it is, but again, when you get all that experience and are really good, it's hard to stop but not impossible at all with all that gear and vehicles to counter. Sometimes you literally can't fly.
Edit: I don't know what region you play but pretty sure you see same names commonly flying.
@RaginSam wrote:
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
@RaginSamSpot and repair for instance. And what makes you think squad plays one vehicle only? Me as nb and others with ram.You missed the point. The Nightbird is mostly used by one person and has more potential lethality output then any other vehicle, by ONE single person! Maybe the Super Hind can be just as effective, but it needs a squad to do so.
Everyone keeps talking about teamwork and how the game is designed around that, what’s the philosophy behind the Nightbird then? It only takes one person to man a tank effectively, but it’s slow, easier to avoid, and WAY easier to coordinate and kill. See the difference? One tool isn’t balanced like the other.
The Nightbird isn’t purely skill. These people can’t get those kills in any other way. They wouldn’t be able to do the same thing in any Tank or as an Infantry player.
Adding the Little Bird/Nightbird to the game was a fundamental mistake.
- @Man_iLoveFishing So where else in the game can you do that? It doesn’t matter how good you are with a tank, it’s physical impossible to go 60, 70, 80+ every game. No matter how you try to dance around the statistics, the Nightbird out performs all the other vehicles.
If we’re talking about skilled based counters, why was the Rorsch nerfed against Air Vehicles? Why can’t I counter the way that I had been since they released of that gun? Please explain that one. Don’t bother, he is a heli fanboi to the death and will never admit helicopters are OP. The point that an expert in ANY other vehicle will not rack up even half the kills of an expert heli pilot is lost on him. Never mind that many times flares did not break IR lock of a missile. Also helicopters rarely engaged and loitered in a hot zone.
- @MiklaDfar Oki, how about you stop doing commercials about me? If you have no idea what you are talking about, keep it shut. Thanks.
@MiklaDfar This is true. I've run almost full rounds on maps like Spearhead where infantry can be squeezed into confined areas, while using either the M1A5 or T28 with HE rounds. Even in say, 20 minutes of gameplay moving around hitting infantry concentrations, I'd be lucky to break over 50 kills on a good run. What strikes my curiosity with the Nightbird is that the point where the minigun fire comes together is at a particular distance. If you're too far away or too close, it spreads too much, and landing enough damage on a moving target becomes difficult. That knowledge is what perks my suspicions when certain Nightbird pilots just obliterate every single thing with a single burst at any range.
