Veterans Far and Wide
So, as I was discussing in another topic by @carsono311 , do you all think it is a possibility that dev team was well aware that the gameplay mechanics of, for sake of argument I’ll say BF2042 proper...
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Hi @gruntbrews_vicv ,
What is real bad is that the EA/DICE team appear trying to cater to everybody and in the process have become totally lost themselves!
The true BATTLEFIELD IDENTITY has been lost.
Aka there are none of the classic Battlefield signatures in the current beta gameplay.
It appears EA want to please all different tastes and preferences, and by trying this impossible task, they fail miserably to deliver to any of us really.
To stay in your line of thinking, the schizophrenic split is like this:
- BF2042 All-Out-Warfare: To please the COD/arcade shooter fanbase
- BF2042 Portal: To please the BF3/BFBC/BF4 fanbase
- BF2042 Hazard Zone: To please the BattleRoyale Fortnite/Apex Legends fanbase
- @CyberDyme Those bullet points are probably a fairly good summary of the situation, well put.
If the core game was also to cater towards previous titles i honestly wouldn't mind at all if they included modes like hazard zone to appeal to people who prefer other games.
That the core game isn't really catering towards their own marketing material though, that's a different matter.I wrote this before. I have mixed feelings about Portal.
Sure, it's nice to relive old experiences. But I've already had these experiences before and I generally don't enjoy buying remasters. Where's is the innovation? Why couldn't Battlefield 2042 just be an entirely new game which uses old features as a backbone?Do we really enjoy playing Wake Island for the ten thousandth time and why can't they make new maps that are just as good?
Portal gives us a little bit of freedom but don't forget this freedom was a lot more in earlier games (think mod tools and server management tools that existed since the start of the Battlefield franchise).People seem to have accepted that we will never get mods and the ability to host our own servers anymore and will settle down for the next best thing. I completely disagree with that mindset and I wish more people did. In fact, people seem to embrace that we get a slightly bit more impact on customization and completely seem to have forgotten that there was WAY more freedom in older versions of the game.
I have yet to play the beta but if 2042 isn't going to live up to my expectations, I don't think I will even bother buying the game and completely skip Portal. There are plenty of other games I like and maybe it's just time I say this franchise goodbye.
@CyberDyme wrote:
To stay in your line of thinking, the schizophrenic split is like this:
- BF2042 All-Out-Warfare: To please the COD/arcade shooter fanbase
- BF2042 Portal: To please the BF3/BFBC/BF4 fanbase
- BF2042 Hazard Zone: To please the BattleRoyale Fortnite/Apex Legends fanbase
@CyberDyme The insane part is that normally a studio caters to their own fan base first and then tries to expand their player base with additional game modes. However in 2042 the Battlefield Veterans have been kicked outside to Portal while the main game is catering to the new guys. It's like being kicked out of your own house to a hotel when guests arrive in town.
@ragnarok013 wrote:@CyberDyme The insane part is that normally a studio caters to their own fan base first and then tries to expand their player base with additional game modes. However in 2042 the Battlefield Veterans have been kicked outside to Portal while the main game is catering to the new guys. It's like being kicked out of your own house to a hotel when guests arrive in town.
Thank you @ragnarok013 ,
That is actually a very nice and fitting analogy that you here make! 👍
Think definitely we are a very large group of BF Veterans that feel completely left out and not cared about one bit. Now if the Portal part is inheriting too many pieces from the main game area, then it will be no good at all. And I am afraid of this, due to the nature of the integrated parts of the weapon/game mechanics and soldier loadouts are working.
From what I have experienced during the Beta testing here this week, I am not comfortable that the Portal can compensate for the drastic shortcomings in the base game design and engine for us to be able to get what we want in the Portal...
- @CyberDyme I think it is possible to cater to everyone to an extent, it’s about meeting the middle. I am not going to go out and say that it has to be “my way or x way or the highway”. Some veterans are liking the changes, granted I disagree with them. I think that everyone is going to have to find a happy medium where everyone can win in a sense.
