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I actually enjoy playing Halo or 2042 on my PC or Console with cross play. Frankly sometimes aim assist on console feels kinda dirty to me when I'm playing on console but I understand the need for aim assist because of how controller works so it's not a big deal if I die suspiciously to a console guy when I'm on PC.
- 4 years ago@ragnarok013 I don't understand why you think inputbased matchmaking is a bad idea just because you play on both PC and console. I suspect that you play on PC at least 90% of the time and enjoy the easy kills of console players. I have virtually no aim-assist when playing Battlefield 2042. I recognize that in COD for example the aim-assist is over the top strong but in 2042 I have absolutely no aim-assist 90% of the time on Xbox series X. My k/d has been dropping since the time Xbox servers died due to few players.
- ragnarok0134 years agoHero+
@lionking7001 wrote:
@ragnarok013 I don't understand why you think inputbased matchmaking is a bad idea just because you play on both PC and console. I suspect that you play on PC at least 90% of the time and enjoy the easy kills of console players. I have virtually no aim-assist when playing Battlefield 2042. I recognize that in COD for example the aim-assist is over the top strong but in 2042 I have absolutely no aim-assist 90% of the time on Xbox series X. My k/d has been dropping since the time Xbox servers died due to few players.@lionking7001 one simple reason, I am ardently pro-cross play and input based matchmaking is the opposite of cross play since it segregates players. I'm curious, how you would implement input based matchmaking, I suspect you'd want console people playing with MKB to be matched with PC players, but what about PC players playing with a controller would you match them with console players, and if yes would you re-enable aim assist for PC controller that DICE recently removed? How do you solve the long standing issue of people on console using zim or cronus since when the system sees those input devices as controllers when they are really MKB? How does that course of action solve the MKB vs controller matchmaking issue satisfactorily when the root issue of unfairness is still present with cronus while reducing your matchmaking pool?
I see a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth about playing against keyboard users but no real solutions that wouldn't harm the game. With 2042 having record low player numbers for a Battlefield game at this point in its life, and people here on the forums frequently unable to find matches with cross play enabled at different times of the day cross play is probably the only reason the game was still semi alive before the last patch. The fact of the matter is that console players choose to leave cross play enabled because they don't have an issue playing with other platforms like some of the posters in this thread seem to have, and that is why Xbox only servers are a ghost town.
Regarding aim assist, it's still present on console so you should have aim assist in 2042 on Xbox. If you don't have aim assist 90% of the time submit a bug report in the bug report section.
- 4 years ago
@ragnarok013I would submit a post in the bug report if I actually believed that someone at Dice would read and react. For now I have stopped playing the game. That is also a good solution for better wellbeing
- 4 years ago@ragnarok013 Why do you think it’s great when closed systems like Xbox and playstation charge for their online gaming and get put against cheating pc players who play for free?
Isn’t the whole point in these closed systems plug and play and security against multiplayer hackers?
Who with a modicum of common sense wants this silliness- Ironhead8414 years agoHero
So all PC players are "cheaters"?
- 4 years ago@Ironhead841 Nope never said that!
- Anobix4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@emerson1975 wrote:
@ragnarok013Why do you think it’s great when closed systems like Xbox and playstation charge for their online gaming and get put against cheating pc players who play for free?
Isn’t the whole point in these closed systems plug and play and security against multiplayer hackers?
Who with a modicum of common sense wants this sillinessI've said it once, and I'll say it again. I've played about 150-200 hours, my buddies that I squad with have played far more. None of us have ever seen a "cheater" in our matches. The worst we've seen is people getting glitched below the ground and shooting up. But it's not at all like how I've seen on older BF games or Call of Duty, etc that are just swamped with people wall hacking, aim botting, flying through the air and ending up 300-0 on the scoreboard.
- ragnarok0134 years agoHero+
@emerson1975 wrote:
@ragnarok013 Why do you think it’s great when closed systems like Xbox and playstation charge for their online gaming and get put against cheating pc players who play for free?
Isn’t the whole point in these closed systems plug and play and security against multiplayer hackers?
Who with a modicum of common sense wants this silliness@emerson1975 Technically everyone is charged for their online gaming via their ISP, but console players (I am one too since I play on PC/Xbox/Playstation) get double taxed because we are willing to pay. Sony never used to charge for online until they saw Xbox get away with it. Back on topic, cheating is greatly over exaggerated by the console (and sometimes even PC) player base. Maybe I've been extremely fortunate since 1996 when I started gaming online on PC in FPSs but I rarely run into a bonafide cheater on PC, it's happened but rare for me. Most of the shady deaths that I experience can be explained away via latency variations or ping differences with people playing with bad internet or out of region - especially when you check the scoreboard and see the guy has a mediocre KD (yet another reason why a scoreboard with real ping number is so necessary). Also there are cheats for console too since it's basically an x86 PC platform so let's not act like console players are white as the driven snow when it comes to shenanigans. You also have the option to opt out of cross play if you really don't like playing against other platforms. Personally I'll always fight for gamers to have the option to play with friends and cross play is the epitome of being able to play with friends.
- 4 years ago
@ragnarok013Firstly your running of the misconception that hackers only play as superman aimbotting everyone in sight, if anything they are the minority!
Your whole argument about paying to play is a bit silly to be fair and as of right now nobody has been able to write unsigned code to next gen consoles at all so it’s physically impossible to run anything unless Sony and Microsoft say so irrespective if its x86 or not