What did Casper do to you?
Since the last patch, these are the perceptions. 1: My drone is easily spotted and shot down. Wasnt before 2: My range is about 130 meters down, from 250ish 3: My drone seems slower and less ...
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@Padding_Ur_Stats ok. make your case. what realistically do "snipers" do that actually helps make a team win? we already have plenty of spotting so drone is unnecessary. it's a fun toy but it doesn't help a team win and not PTFO is counter productive to winning
@PsubondFirst let me qualify. The greater majority of snipers are stat padding self absorbed score board watchers. Now, that being said. I have no intention of changing your mind. What I will state are facts.
RE: Sniping is a surgical elimination of high target value ground targets and devices. I have
- Eliminated Ranger and Guns protecting a node. Especially post patch since they have been buffed
- Eliminated flag campers in or under buildings
- Eliminated mobile ground troops running to the blindside of armor presumably with C5
- Eliminated reviving
- Eliminated drivers of Boltes and Jeeps
- Eliminated Drones
- Eliminated SOFLAM users
All these are helpful and contributes to a team win. No one thing does in a game designed like this
Re Drones
After patch Casper is useless. He might be able to take out a vehicle, but it is such a low percentage play, why bother
Prior patch, the drone was more efficient for spotting then the SOFLAM because of its mobility. While the SOFLAM does give tone, my experience has been nobody cares. Ive toned targets for 15 seconds and not one person fired at it. This isnt the exception, it is usually the rule
- The drone allowed one to find those snipers,without the inconvenience of poor position
- It allowed one to eliminate Armor camping in the out of play area unloading its never ending munitions on the closest node (Ex: D1 Hourglass)
- It allowed EMP which I used all the time. When I saw ground approaching armor, I would EMP the armor, giving ground the opportunity to C5 the unit.
- I used my drone to EMP Guns, Ranger and other Drones allowing our forces opportunity to advance.
The problem with this sort of play is, it isnt reflected in the score.There are no points or assists for doing these things, no record of the events But, it contributes to the win scenario as much, if not more then just playing ground and pound. Just because it isnt reflected, does not mean it is useless.
Chart whoring is useless in determining best player. The chart is why people play for stats, and not for wins. It is nothing more then an excuse to blame others. If you look at the chart and complained about someone not having a high score, and they played a specialist designed to assist, you are part of the problem.
Qualification
I have T1 in both SOFLAM and Drone, and my Eagle Eyes label (conquest achieved). I am level S029
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:Qualification
I have T1 in both SOFLAM and Drone, and my Eagle Eyes label (conquest achieved). I am level S029
I have t1 on those things as well. I think I'm mastery 140ish on soflam so 14k+ spots. I know how to run a soflam. Speaking of which, you have to give your team time to notice you are running soflam and switch to m5. Don't just do it once and give up.
I focus on capping flags and killing vehicles.
I still think a "sniper" laying prone taking pot shots at 400+ meters are completely useless
Edit: oh, and I'm level S050 (not that rank matters but you brought it up)
- @Psubond I presumed you have played longer then me. I just wanted you to know I wasnt brand new
I agree with your distance measure. I try and position my self around 200 meters. If Im going to take one out at a time, I want high percentage - @Padding_Ur_Stats Buddy scoped a guy at 400m and 300m during HZ @ Orbital. I applaud snipers who take the time. On the flip, Bf4 and BF3 and BCBC1 sniping was amazing. Here, eh, but still very doable. Just wished zeroing of scopes was possible. Using the NTW on long shots is annoying.
- @Padding_Ur_Stats But back to the topic. I miss that 300m drone. I wish it came back.
And I know all you others are going to say “no, GOOD it’s gone” save your energy on typing 💬. 🍻 I need to try it again but it seems that the A2G missiles now target drones. Don't think they did pre-update.
@Psubond Didn't think about that but that could well work.
Edit: Wildcat targets them with AA missiles too.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/L9KFYXW9
This dev team needs to learn that balance can be achieved without taking Thor's hammer to things. A first step would have been allowing them to be locked onto by various means and maybe increasing their hitbox size a bit. Instead now they fly slower and have a useless range.
@ElliotLH wrote:@PsubondDidn't think about that but that could well work.
Edit: Wildcat targets them with AA missiles too.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/L9KFYXW9
Absolute clownery- @Necromantion At the moment we can't be sure if handling the OV-P drone as a vehicle was an act of balancing or just a bug fixed. So maybe fixing bugs and changing other aspects of the drone might have messed up the situation more.
Did someone check if the spotting range changed the same, or was it increased to be on par with the SOFLAM? - @ElliotLH Since Sundance Anti-Armor grenades work I get a lot "10xp Equipment destroyed" messages. I am not sure yet, if those are only from OV-P drones, or if there is other equipment it works on. Rangers should result in 75xp and SG-36 Sentry Guns should give 25xp.
I have to check if they can target and destroy APS-36 Shootdown Sentinels.
@Psubond wrote:
@kregora wrote:
@PsubondI agree, but I get the "10xp Equipment destroyed" quite often, what makes me believe there might be something else, that attracts the grenades.probably sentry guns, those things are everywhere and i think they give 10exp (or at least they used to)
Sentry guns sound make sense. Maybe even Ranger too.
I need to try it again but it seems that the A2G missiles now target drones. Don't think they did pre-update.
No you couldn't. In fact, you couldnt naturally spot a drone unless it was marked by a SOFLAM or another Drone. Now, they have red dots on them at all times. In the week after this patch, 29% of all my drones were destroyed at launch. Think about that for a moment. The key ability of a specialist fails at take off almost 30% of the time. Doesnt Falck fail to heal 30% of the time? Does Mackays grappling hook fail to latch, does Boris' gun fail to deploy?
The range of the drone was dropped from 250 meters to 130 meters.
Is Mackay's hook range halved? The range of the sensor on Boris' gun or range of shot?
Casper didnt get a nerf hammer, he got a nerf nuke. The only real reason to play Casper now is if youre in a green map, a sniper because of your sensor suit. If you dont have anything that matches the terrain, he isnt even a good choice for snipers.
The worst part of all this is the Drone's importance or power was greatly overstated. The nerf seems heavy handed, and done just to do something for some community whining.
- @Padding_Ur_Stats even if you forget about the c5 thing that drone is just an exp farm
@Psubondlol, the C5 thing was a low % farm. Most of the time, you didnt get credit. Other times, the vehicle didnt get destroyed. If you truly want vehicle farm, get airborne.
The drone vehicle farm was hyperbole from armor drivers
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:No you couldn't. In fact, you couldnt naturally spot a drone unless it was marked by a SOFLAM or another Drone. Now, they have red dots on them at all times. In the week after this patch, 29% of all my drones were destroyed at launch. Think about that for a moment. The key ability of a specialist fails at take off almost 30% of the time. Doesnt Falck fail to heal 30% of the time? Does Mackays grappling hook fail to latch, does Boris' gun fail to deploy?
The range of the drone was dropped from 250 meters to 130 meters.
Is Mackay's hook range halved? The range of the sensor on Boris' gun or range of shot?
Casper didnt get a nerf hammer, he got a nerf nuke. The only real reason to play Casper now is if youre in a green map, a sniper because of your sensor suit. If you dont have anything that matches the terrain, he isnt even a good choice for snipers.
The worst part of all this is the Drone's importance or power was greatly overstated. The nerf seems heavy handed, and done just to do something for some community whining.
Honestly even though I defended the c5 drone and used it as a creative means of fighting vehicles, it reached at a point where I decided it was plain evil to do to tanks.
Even I personally avoided using tanks due to the chance to being instantly deleted.
The armored vehicles in this game are too weak for such a menace as it was pre 4.0.
Honestly even though I defended the c5 drone and used it as a creative means of fighting vehicles, it reached at a point where I decided it was plain evil to do to tanks.
Even I personally avoided using tanks due to the chance to being instantly deleted.
The armored vehicles in this game are too weak for such a menace as it was pre 4.0.
You mean like tanks instantly delete ground and lessor vehicles? Complaining about instant delete while driving armor and farming ground troops is a bit hypocritical
You also could get deleted by aircraft. AND!!! Considering tanks drive faster then drones, youre only risk is if youre a tank camper farming an objective. (B2 on discarded)
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:@Psubondlol, the C5 thing was a low % farm. Most of the time, you didnt get credit. Other times, the vehicle didnt get destroyed. If you truly want vehicle farm, get airborne.
The drone vehicle farm was hyperbole from armor drivers
the drone spotting is an easy mode exp farm (especially in breakthrough) which is why people like it so much. i wasn't talking about c5 which is why i said ignoring the c5 thing
