What is the fascination with classes?
why are people so wrapped around the axle on not allowing the flexibility that we have now and insisting on restricting the playstyle of others? people can set their loadout however they like so the...
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@AuramiteX how is it opinion? people have been complaining about worthless teamates sitting on hills pretending to be snipers since these games came out. classes didn't fix that and specialists didn't make it worse. it still happens on every game
I'm not going to waste time trying to change your opinion. If you still like the specialists you are entitled to do so.
Here are the facts:
Most people don't like them. Most people have stopped playing and the game has become irrelevant.
EA can double down and ignore the players, or they can listen to them and start to make changes.
- @AuramiteX i'm just trying to get someone to give me an objective fact that shows that a problem caused by specialists will be fixed by restricting people to classes. no one has done that.
here is an objective fact:
A bunch of silly clones running around and saying dumb stuff after each game is annoying and immersion breaking. And seeing a Russian guy with a Russian flag on his arm fighting on behalf of the USA against a clone of himself wearing stupid looking armour is ridiculous.
That's as objective as it gets.
@AuramiteX wrote:I'm not going to waste time trying to change your opinion. If you still like the specialists you are entitled to do so.
Here are the facts:
Most people don't like them. Most people have stopped playing and the game has become irrelevant.
EA can double down and ignore the players, or they can listen to them and start to make changes.
your facts: Most people don't like them. Most people have stopped playing and the game has become irrelevant. most people on forums don't like them. how many players are actually on the forums? too small a sample size that does not properly survey the entire player pool
EA can double down and ignore the players, or they can listen to them and start to make changes. does not demonstrate that it would make a large number of players come back to the game nor does it demonstrate that it would bring in new players
You can think whatever you want.
I would be happier if all the specialists were traded for Ponies with guns strapped to their backs at this point.
Most people who bought Battlefield want Battlefield. They don't want Overwatch, Fortnight or Rainbow Six Siege.
The game is a dumpster fire. It's a complete failure, and EA have admitted it.
You haven't given any objective data either. Yet you continue to demand it.
@AuramiteX wrote:here is an objective fact:
A bunch of silly clones running around and saying dumb stuff after each game is annoying and immersion breaking. And seeing a Russian guy with a Russian flag on his arm fighting on behalf of the USA against a clone of himself wearing stupid looking armour is ridiculous.
That's as objective as it gets.
what you wrote is subjective.
as i have said in the past though, i have no issue changing the looks and sound of specialists, i still have not been given an objective example of how locking into classes solves a problem created by specialists and the ability to pick any weapon and second gadget
@AuramiteX wrote:You can think whatever you want.
I would be happier if all the specialists were traded for Ponies with guns strapped to their backs at this point.
Most people who bought Battlefield want Battlefield. They don't want Overwatch, Fortnight or Rainbow Six Siege.
The game is a dumpster fire. It's a complete failure, and EA have admitted it.
You haven't given any objective data either. Yet you continue to demand it.
i am merely asking a question. what is the fascination with classes? what is problem with game play is caused by specialists that can be fixed with classes.
- @Psubond My guy... that is not subjective at all. Having the same clones on each side is immersion breaking by human nature alone. That's an objective fact.
If in a sport you have two exact clones of each other playing against each other, that alone would be confusing. That's a fact, they are clones of each other.
@AuramiteX wrote:I'm not going to waste time trying to change your opinion. If you still like the specialists you are entitled to do so.
Here are the facts:
Most people don't like them. Most people have stopped playing and the game has become irrelevant.
EA can double down and ignore the players, or they can listen to them and start to make changes.
"We can't give any factual reasons how specialists ruin gameplay, you have to read another thread where all the reasons are, (spoiler alert there aren't any major reasons).
But we decided we don't like them and we've managed to convince a lot of people not to like them too, just bcuz, and you need to get rid of them or we will attempt to cancel the game".
Did I miss anything?
@AuramiteX wrote:here is an objective fact:
A bunch of silly clones running around and saying dumb stuff after each game is annoying and immersion breaking. And seeing a Russian guy with a Russian flag on his arm fighting on behalf of the USA against a clone of himself wearing stupid looking armour is ridiculous.
That's as objective as it gets.
So when they were more serious clones from BF4 etc they were alright?
Got it.
- @Tank2042Man Look at my response #79 on page 8, it answers your response perfectly.
- @Tank2042Man nope. solution accepted. that sums it up perfectly
@Tank2042Man wrote:
@AuramiteX wrote:I'm not going to waste time trying to change your opinion. If you still like the specialists you are entitled to do so.
Here are the facts:
Most people don't like them. Most people have stopped playing and the game has become irrelevant.
EA can double down and ignore the players, or they can listen to them and start to make changes.
"We can't give any factual reasons how specialists ruin gameplay, you have to read another thread where all the reasons are, (spoiler alert there aren't any major reasons).
But we decided we don't like them and we've managed to convince a lot of people not to like them too, just bcuz, and you need to get rid of them or we will attempt to cancel the game".
Did I miss anything?
hmmm....look at who gave you exp on that post. ๐
@Tank2042Man There's no "facts" that point either way, gameplay is a completely subjective topic. Some people will always like things that others dislike, it's subjective.
If we are trying to quantify it, the best we can do is point to the plummeting player counts to this game as evidence that the majority of players don't enjoy the gameplay. But WHY they don't enjoy it is still completely subjective.
Now plenty of people have given you their subjective opinions on why they don't like specialists. You don't have to agree, that's fine, but you can't just ignore the reasons given to you and pretend they don't exist.
Also, the players don't have the ability to "cancel" this game lol. Only EA DICE does. If the studio had released a game people wanted to play, people would play it. The fact that this isn't what happened is in no way players "cancelling" the game, it a statement about the game that was released. You can't just switch cause and effect around.
@Psubond wrote:
@Tank2042Man wrote:"We can't give any factual reasons how specialists ruin gameplay, you have to read another thread where all the reasons are, (spoiler alert there aren't any major reasons).
But we decided we don't like them and we've managed to convince a lot of people not to like them too, just bcuz, and you need to get rid of them or we will attempt to cancel the game".
Did I miss anything?
hmmm....look at who gave you exp on that post. ๐
Yeah, 52XP from an EA Community manager giving kudos to a post making a mockery of someone else's opinion on the topic. If anything it's telling I would say.
- @Dsmilees Nicely said. Every time I see the phrase โmost peopleโ, I cringe.
@Kean_1111 wrote:
@Psubond wrote:
@Tank2042Man wrote:"We can't give any factual reasons how specialists ruin gameplay, you have to read another thread where all the reasons are, (spoiler alert there aren't any major reasons).
But we decided we don't like them and we've managed to convince a lot of people not to like them too, just bcuz, and you need to get rid of them or we will attempt to cancel the game".
Did I miss anything?
hmmm....look at who gave you exp on that post. ๐
Yeah, 52XP from an EA Community manager giving kudos to a post making a mockery of someone else's opinion on the topic. If anything it's telling I would say.
@Kean_1111 The AHQ_Official is an automated thing - it awarded 52XP because that post was selected as the solution by @Psubond.
@ElliotLH wrote:.
@Kean_1111 The AHQ_Official is an automated thing - it awarded 52XP because that post was selected as the solution by @Psubond.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up @ElliotLH . .....sincerely. It was a little disheartening (to me) thinking it was an actual rep from EA.
There are some good points being provided here (from both sides) worth discussion that I hope EA / DICE are taking note of. .....but sometimes agreeing to disagree is all that's left which is better than devolving into belittling exchanges.
