What is the fascination with classes?
why are people so wrapped around the axle on not allowing the flexibility that we have now and insisting on restricting the playstyle of others? people can set their loadout however they like so the...
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@Trokey66 wrote:Clones of specialists - Bad
Clones of classes - Good
Makes sense......
Seriously? Coming from you who's apparently been around for as long as I have, it's very obvious. The models in older games were (mostly) faceless. They had nothing tied to them. No backstory, no quips, no identifier other than what their role is. Not only that, but they were different depending on what faction you played. Stop trying to BS us here, you know exactly why people don't want clones of Marvel/Disney characters, especially when they are EXACTLY the same on both teams other than a damn glowstick.
@Albake21z The models in older games all had faces and as to names, so what? Apart from the menus and some one liners, specialist names (nevermind back story) do not appear in game.
What fundamental difference does it make if you play as Boris instead of Support, Falck instead of Medic or Casper instead of Recon?
None what so ever!
Assuming you read all my post you would have seen the bit where I mentioned faction skins would help but are not essential for me. That said, if you play as Sundance for example, how many times gave you seen an enemy Sundance and not tried to shoot them? And be honest.
Marvel/Disney characters? That's a new one!
What fundamental difference does it make if you play as Boris instead of Support, Falck instead of Medic or Casper instead of Recon?
None what so ever!
Assuming you read all my post you would have seen the bit where I mentioned faction skins would help but are not essential for me. That said, if you play as Sundance for example, how many times gave you seen an enemy Sundance and not tried to shoot them? And be honest.
Marvel/Disney characters? That's a new one!
- @Trokey66 I said mostly, because most of their faces were covered up. Their faces were also so generic, there was no way to tie a character to it.
You already answered your own question. The difference is Falck is a strong written character, with a background and specific voice lines. Hearing and seeing the same thing on both teams is an issue. She's Russian, but works on both teams.
I've gotten slightly better at it, but in my 85 hours, it's happened often, Not so much from a distance, but up close there have been many instances where I was confused if it was an enemy or teammate. Only way to know is by playing laser tag and looking to see what color glow stick they have.
How much better would it be if Sundance was faction specific, so I don't have to look at a damn glowstick. I would see, hear, and acknowledge that Sundance = specific team.- @Albake21z i think they should have different skins for each faction but then we run into people complaining that they can't use their teir 1 skin or some other skin. not defending the argument, just saying it will be made
dice has proven they can crank out skins so it shouldn't be a big ask to have a russian T1 skin and a US T1 skin for each specialist (and while they're at it give us the option to mute the one liners) @Albake21zWhat difference does this 'strong written character with background' make? Whilst I disagree, I can understand the voice line bit but then I assume every sound I hear is enemy generated until proven otherwise.
If you hear something and the isn't a blue dot on the mini map, it's an enemy.....
As to visuals, I can safely say that once they fixed the blue/green dot over friendlies heads, I have never had an issue with identifying enemies. Indeed, before the fix, the issue was shooting at friendlies by mistake.- @Albake21z So first, Falck is German, the English and Russian out cries were added after the Beta, because language was one feature to tell friend from foe in other Battlefield games.
Second she is female. I am pretty convinced, that Angel can revive team mates, because in the original concept the only medic was a woman.
And yeah we know the glow sticks are here to "help" with the friendly/unfriendly clone issue. But I am also sure, that no one believes that glowsticks on camouflage battledresses help when hiding in the bushes. More than once I shot bushes, because I glimpsed something red glowing in there. And it also something why I despise T1 skins, because now the friendlies also have the red accents "reserved" for enemies.- @kregora I loved in 3 and 4 when I would be in an objective area and could hear an English/Russian/Chinese voice screaming reloading or grenade when I threw one in the direction they were in. That told me that there is an enemy player over there. The sound design was top notch and those little implementations of real time feedback besides just footsteps made you feel so immersed.
