What is the fascination with classes?
why are people so wrapped around the axle on not allowing the flexibility that we have now and insisting on restricting the playstyle of others? people can set their loadout however they like so the...
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@Stew360Yeah, when I say, classes are better than specialists, I think in terms of BF4 classes.
In BF4 I got shouted at for not equipping a defibrillator on an assault, or asked frequently why I didn't placed a spawn beacon with my recon.
The thing was, players were free to play BF4 classes, as they played their BF3 classes.
I believe the central issue with the specialists is, that there is no way to emulate a BF3 / BF4 anti-vehicle soldier. Which combines badly with the increased number of vehicles on the field.
@kregora Then your arguments does a complete 180 compare to the premise of other " pro classes " narative wich pretend it was because it brought " predictability " and " limit and restrain poeoples "
Now you claim classes specifically BF4 classes were better because you could gets everything in the book to deal with vehicles ?
Ever heard of RAO + stinger combo ? Or Sundanxe EMP Grenade + m5 rockets ?
Or EMP drones , Soflam , mines and so on ?
This game has EMP everywhere and when playing against half decent player .. playing in a vehicle is insanely hard and insanely anoying .. with disable parts that hirt your turret turning speed , top speed etc ...
Vehicles are far from " OP " when you know how to deal with them and kniw your tools EMP being one of the most important eich prevent any repairs that cancel disable parts nasty effects on the vehicle when timed right .. vehicles players are screwed when EMP or hacked
Now you claim classes specifically BF4 classes were better because you could gets everything in the book to deal with vehicles ?
Ever heard of RAO + stinger combo ? Or Sundanxe EMP Grenade + m5 rockets ?
Or EMP drones , Soflam , mines and so on ?
This game has EMP everywhere and when playing against half decent player .. playing in a vehicle is insanely hard and insanely anoying .. with disable parts that hirt your turret turning speed , top speed etc ...
Vehicles are far from " OP " when you know how to deal with them and kniw your tools EMP being one of the most important eich prevent any repairs that cancel disable parts nasty effects on the vehicle when timed right .. vehicles players are screwed when EMP or hacked
- @Stew360 In my opinion, most players that dislike the specialists, most likely also disliked BF4 classes, for the same reason.
This is, of course, a lot of speculation on my side.
People complain there is less team play with the Specialists, and I believe the reason behind this is, that the BF3 class defining gadgets now are only secondary gadgets, and that way are less likely to be used in the players loadouts.
And yes, I still think, I am allowed to say, that the BF4 classes are a superior design compared to Specialists, and Specialists and BF2 and BF3 classes are pretty much the same. - @kregora Yet BF4 was classes system base and far less predictable than 2042 wich is the middle ground between totally unimaginative locked classes like BF2 and overly custumizable classes like BF4 ..
Specialist are 50% predictable at least while BF4 was 100% unpredictable .. Thats said the hate campaign toward specialist isnt justified neither is it justifiable ..At this point we know poeoples just love to hate on EA even if EA is far less worst than Sony , nintendo , Activision , 2K , Taketwo etc.. All those companies have far worst shady practices and yet here we are ..
Specialist system is by far the best system to build squad synergy while provinding enoug queus on what to expect from x and y specialist ... - @Stew360 Where do You get those statistics from?
"unimaginative locked classes like BF2" - dude, like seriously.
Assault in BF2 translates into Rifleman, Rifleman Grenadier as in USMC. Support is basically Automatic Rifleman with ammo crate. Sniper is a Marksman. Anti-Tank is AT Grenadier. I would quarrel and say that META builds in 2042 have no ground in even reality. Just holding a certain weapon type indicated and determined a certain playstyle and behavior.
"we know poeoples just love to hate on EA even if EA is far less worst than Sony" - so what, EA is supposed to be a lesser Evil amongst spawn of Evil, that`s a very noble notion...
"Specialist system is by far the best system to build squad synergy" - if You`re aiming at Planetside and Apex crossover then You`re absolutely right. - @Stew360 But abilities of the Specialists is only one side of the medallion. The other side is a faction specific representation.
I'd rather don't know what someone is capable of, than not knowing if they are friend or foe.
The Hero Approach let to some design decisions, unfitting to a military shooter with a gritty backstory. This feels like encountering full squads of the same Legendary in BFV all over again, all the time.
