Why can't I do weekly missions solo?
I don't understand on why DICE is so adamant on alienating the PvE players. That SEED video you posted almost 4 years ago flaunted on how you guys are spearheading this amazing self learning AI and t...
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@MDBuzzI'm 55 and been round the block a bit.
I'm not 'bashing' PvE players, mearly pointing out that weekly missions and this one particular can only be done by achieving all the requirements.
None of these requirements can be achieved in PvE so if anyone doesn't want to PvP, they don't get the reward.
If I didn't want to play Rush, should I demand that the requirements be changed to suit me so I can do it on Conquest?
You talk about 'playing together' yet these guys refuse to play PvP for a few rounds with others to get a reward!
If players want all the rewards they are going to have to accept that at some point, they will have to do something they don't want or like to do and step out of their comfort zone and I see no problem with this.
I prefer PvP as you may have noticed but I'm no way against PvE and if there is ever PvE mission requirements, I'll do them to get the reward.
It really is as simple as suck it up and try or don't get the reward. It is what I do.
It seems that you want everyone to get everything even if that means little or no effort at all.
@Trokey66So you come from an era where bots were everywhere, you should understand why people fight to have full progression vs bots. Besides EA promised it and removed it right away, it’s a part of the game.
What I understand by your words, is players should « suffer » to have it all. But it’s a game, it supposed to be fun. You have to suffer if you want to climb up the leaderboard, or if you want to rank up in a league or a ranked mode, you shouldn’t have to do something you don’t want to do in a game, just to rank up the classic level system, a battle pass, or you stats to unlock player card and stuff.
Playing PvE is not a minimum effort, it’s just another way to play. Some people in WoW are leveillng only by doing PvP stuff, some prefer to do PvE, is one of them worthier than the other ? No, and they do both level up and have rewards. In CoD, some people rank up only in zombie, or in casual play, while others only play in hardcore, is on of them worthier than the others ? No, and they all rank up and earn rewards. We can play together the same game, even if you play on different game mode, we share the same enjoyment for the same game.
If you think people has to do what they don’t want to do to progress, then you don’t understand why some of use like gaming. Challenges based on specific weapon type are the worst, that’s why Halo banished them, that’s why COD players are complaining about some camo that need you to use specific attachments. In a game, no one want to do something he’s not confortable with, or he’ll do it because he is forced to, and he won’t enjoy it at all. And most will just quit the game or get bored.
It can be both fun and rewarding.
- @MDBuzz You are confusing a one off mission for a skin with progression, how are you progressing by unlocking the skin?
Progression is unlocking attachments and gadgets and ranking up. @MDBuzzNot sure if you have noticed yet but this is Battlefield, not Halo or CoD. What they do is irrelevant to this discussion.
And yes, I remember when all you could play against was bots hence I now prefer PvP on the whole, but again, this is irrelevant to this conversation.
At no point have I suggested they must 'suffer', that is some grade A hyperbole there!
As @R1ckyDaMan19 says, this is a 'one off' weekly missions so over all progression is once again, irrelevant to this conversation.
Weekly missions/challenges in Battlefield have always had elements that some or all would rather not do and/or present a modicum of challenge. Everyone has aleays had the choice to either suck it up and do them or not get the reward.
Why should PvE only players be any different? If these missions/challenges don't require players to leave their comfort zone now and then, there is no point in them and DICE may as well just give the rewards out as long as you can turn your console on!- @MDBuzz the challenges are hardly suffering. doing the rush objectives was ridiculously easy as mckay. just play like spiderman, no one ever looks up. you just have to arm 3 objectives, or if you are defending let them arm the objective, shoot them with a shotgun and disarm it (two birds one stone) then just grind the 30 kills and 50 revives (both super easy in breakthrough...you can probably get most if not all revives in one breakthrough game as medic)
@R1ckyDaMan19Weekly challenge are part of the global progression, because they rewards XP, and unlock things every weeks. Both XP and unlocks are progression through the game.
@Psubond I agree, I don't say they are hard, I complain about them not being doable on AOW Solo/coop official server.
@Trokey66Halo and CoD share the same playerbase according to Publishers, and aim to the same people when it comes to the marketing area. So it's relevant to compare with direct competitors. Battlefield 2042 players that are disapointed with the game wil eventually quit the game for CoD.
And I don't want PvE player to be treated differently, I want them to be treated the same, with the shared progression Dice promised. Weekly challenge can be both fun and diverse. Kill X people regardelss of the weapon, kill X poeple in a vehicule, regardless of the vehicule type, kill X people through a scope, regardless of the weapon type or scope, play X objectives (Rush/Conquest/BT), supply X people (HP, Ammo or Armor), play X game regardless the game mode, spot X enemy position, revive X people (forces you to play medic tho), make X assist kills, there are a lot a challenge that can be acheived on any mode by playing your way.- @Psubond Terrible, terrible take. "When did cod every promise you could unlock skins in zombies? When rockstar ever promise you could unlock content in RDR2 story mode?" they don't have to promise, the moment they advertised a single player, it's fair to players to assumed they'd be treated to any dlc the game has to offer.
The only argument I keep seeing against this is downright selfish players who straight up don't want PvE people to have the same experience; despite multiple solutions being presented. Don't worry, no PvE player is ever gonna bother you, we literally keep to ourselves with bots lmao. - @Trokey66 If Dice where giving away their Christmas bonuses for the first player to wrack up a 1000 kills then fair enough, that is something to be earned.
This is for a naff looking skin.
I didn't go near the PvE and even I think just let them have the unlocks. It's a naff reward for coughing up the cash to play a game. This isn't going on anyones CV, so what does a poxy skin matter whether you play PvP or PvE?
If I unlock it through PvP it's because I enjoy playing PvP, the skin is just a bonus not a reason to play Battlefield. Same for anyone who prefers PvE, one group isn't better than the other, keep the rewards the same for both. @Trokey66I don't want them to GIVE everything, it's also some grade A hyperbole you're doing there. I want them to let everyone EARN it.
@PsubondThey advertised "All experience you earned in Battlefield™ 2042 is universal and shared across all its modes, which means you’ll be leveling up and unlocking new weapons, gadgets, and cosmetics no matter which mode you’re playing. Hardware you unlock has its own mastery-based progression journey, with you earning new unlocks for reaching certain criteria with that hardware. At certain Mastery milestones such as performing 40 kills with a weapon, you’ll also gain cosmetics for that hardware such as a new skin, and a new tier of Mastery Badge you acquire to decorate your Player Card and boast about your achievements." In the Epic Game's Begienner's guide ad they did, they said to Epic "First off, it’s important to know that no matter what you play in Battlefield 2042, you’re earning progress and unlocking cosmetics. All experience earned in any of the modes is universal. So if your main goal is to unlock everything, don’t worry about which mode you’re doing in, just drop in and have fun." For now, Mastery is capped, XP is capped, and you don't unlock Player card and cosmetics because weekly challenges aren't available in solo, and T1 is locked.
But, full progression and full unlocks in solo/coop/portal isn't something that needs clarification, it was planned, it was implemented on day one, every update full progression on any mode is turned on again, because it's the servers default mode.Okay buddy I will explain one more time, seeing as you cant seem to understand basic concepts and wont leave me alone. Will do it in this thread because the other thread is not for a debate. I will try to keep it as simple as i possibly can, if you cant grasp the below then there is no helping you understand and you should just go on your merry way.
BF2042 was advertised on official sites as full progress and unlocks on everything and in ANY mode before it was released, this is how the game launched as intended.
The ONLY reason it is not that now, is because of xp farms being created (this is the only reason, not because it was supposed to be restricted etc, because of xp farms in portal, understand?), even though the Ripple Effect Creative Director knew that this could be an issue as far back as July and didnt implement tools to prevent this.
Amazon Prime is a totally different thing and has nothing to do with this. If you cant understand this then just stop, you are not helping yourself and cant seem to grasp the whole situation. Dont sit there being a keyboard warrior calling me a hypocrite when you obviously have not done the research or even know what we are talking about, which is obvious.
And as I said before, we are not complaining about the pvp side of things like the rush one, we will do it. Its the ones like get so many kills with x weapon, that should be able to be done anywhere as was supposed to be, just like anyone can choose to do, like everyone including you. That is called a choice and hurts nobody
Mate seriously I know what you will come back with and its just hot wind. The above is FACT and what was sold to us whether you like it or not. You say you're 55 but you act like a 12 year old. Stop tagging on to other threads you see me in and trying to bait me.
This is final full stop done. Stop cyberstalking me in other threads that have nothing to do with this subject.Cry all you like but the above is true and the game should have no restrictions in any mode, just like it was said it would be, even if you dont see it that way, I am stating FACTS, and facts dont care about your feelings.
Hope you have a nice xmas my friend and good joys to you, see you on the battlefield 🙂
@MDBuzz wrote:@Trokey66I don't want them to GIVE everything, it's also some grade A hyperbole you're doing there. I want them to let everyone EARN it.
@PsubondThey advertised "All experience you earned in Battlefield™ 2042 is universal and shared across all its modes, which means you’ll be leveling up and unlocking new weapons, gadgets, and cosmetics no matter which mode you’re playing. Hardware you unlock has its own mastery-based progression journey, with you earning new unlocks for reaching certain criteria with that hardware. At certain Mastery milestones such as performing 40 kills with a weapon, you’ll also gain cosmetics for that hardware such as a new skin, and a new tier of Mastery Badge you acquire to decorate your Player Card and boast about your achievements." In the Epic Game's Begienner's guide ad they did, they said to Epic "First off, it’s important to know that no matter what you play in Battlefield 2042, you’re earning progress and unlocking cosmetics. All experience earned in any of the modes is universal. So if your main goal is to unlock everything, don’t worry about which mode you’re doing in, just drop in and have fun." For now, Mastery is capped, XP is capped, and you don't unlock Player card and cosmetics because weekly challenges aren't available in solo, and T1 is locked.
But, full progression and full unlocks in solo/coop/portal isn't something that needs clarification, it was planned, it was implemented on day one, every update full progression on any mode is turned on again, because it's the servers default mode.your experience gained from any mode goes into your overall experience, but they didn't say you would earn the same amount of experience in all modes nor did they say you would unlock all cosmetic items in any game mode. you DO earn cosmetics in PvE. you just don't earn ALL cosmetics in PvE. they said your exp carries across modes and it does. they said you could earn cosmetic items in PvE and you do. and you actually can earn ALL weapon unlocks in PvE so that is a moot point.
i'm not saying you shouldn't be able to unlock all the tier 1 stuff and the weekly stuff in PvE, i'm just saying they never said you could so you are making an invalid argument
@Psubond wrote:your experience gained from any mode goes into your overall experience, but they didn't say you would earn the same amount of experience in all modes nor did they say you would unlock all cosmetic items in any game mode. you DO earn cosmetics in PvE. you just don't earn ALL cosmetics in PvE. they said your exp carries across modes and it does. they said you could earn cosmetic items in PvE and you do. and you actually can earn ALL weapon unlocks in PvE so that is a moot point.
i'm not saying you shouldn't be able to unlock all the tier 1 stuff and the weekly stuff in PvE, i'm just saying they never said you could so you are making an invalid argument
They also never said anything will be restricted either to certain game modes, and when you got stuff like "So if your main goal is to unlock everything, don’t worry about which mode you’re doing in, just drop in and have fun" coming from EA/Dice then what do you think people will think when buying the game for pve only?
Add to the fact that the game launched with people being able to do this in pve and custom portal because that was how it was intended, (and as I have to repeat a 1000 times) the only reason this was stopped and had restrictions put in place was because of the portal xp farms. No other reason.
I also bet you that if the xp farms were never a problem and the restrictions were never put in place, by default like the rest of the game was on release, the weeklies would have been able to be done in pve, unless pvp specific
- @Spidder81 i'm not arguing should/shouldn't be able to i was just going on what they said. if it was up to me i'd allow PvE to do the challenges but it would have to be on the hardest difficulty setting. anyways, if they said you could then in my opinion you should be able to. if they didn't say one way or another then it's dealer's (aka dice's) choice. i am definitely interested in seeing the link to the quote "So if your main goal is to unlock everything, don’t worry about which mode you’re doing in, just drop in and have fun", please post it
What is peoples problem with the multiplayer though? (In this game or in general)
Why do you only want to play against bots?
Just asking out of pure curiosity as I personally find playing against bots to be about as exciting as watching paint dry@BizzyVapingeach to their own mate we are all different. Some love pve, some love pvp. I myself love both. I mean I could say the same about why people watch braindead reality tv shows. I dont get them, I would rather watch a hot drink go cold
@Psubond here you go https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/news/battlefield-2042-a-beginners-guide this was published the day before the official release and would have been advertised as from all the info given from Dice/EA marketing etc
@Spidder81but Brian Crecente is a journalist and not a DICE employee so what he states in that link is not 'official' and open to interpretation.
- @BizzyVaping Honestly I usually enjoy pvp, but the crossplay with pc people from my series x, poor game performance in big game modes, and just poor optimization in general have made me not enjoy the multiplayer at all. I liked the fact that on day one I could unlock everything in pvp so I could actually enjoy a smooth playing game where my teammates played the objective. If I could get console only crossplay or find crossplay off games on the series x I might be more willing to get back into multiplayer.
- @Trokey66 You combine that though with all the other marketing, and on day one having full progression and unlocks you get a very shady and bad look from dice on how they have handled PvE. I played the first day with ea play and really liked that I could unlock everything, so I bought the game only for one day later the game change completely and no more progress in pve.
- @Spidder81 like @Trokey66 said, that is a game journo not a dice employee. like i said, i have no issue with PvE players unlocking skins (on hardest difficulty level) but you can't hold dice accountable for what a game journalist said. should/shouldn't be able to unlock is one argument. saying they promised is a completely different argument
@DominickB3 wrote:
@Trokey66You combine that though with all the other marketing, and on day one having full progression and unlocks you get a very shady and bad look from dice on how they have handled PvE. I played the first day with ea play and really liked that I could unlock everything, so I bought the game only for one day later the game change completely and no more progress in pve.there is progress in PvE. you can unlock every single character, weapon and weapon attachment and level to S999 in PvE the only thing you can't do is unlock skins for specialists/guns or T2/T1 the badges
I think we won't come to a consensus, because the main issue is, as I understand from all the messages, PvE isn't a real game mode for you.
I can understand when you said that nothing is locked because everyone can go to PvP mode to unlock stuff, besides you seem to defend EA/Dice lies, because they don't came with a 255 pages document with all the stuff you can or canot do in the game, but on the other end, you also agree that it's normal to cap PvE XP and rewards because it's unfair for PvP player that you can unlock stuff easily in PvE, and you understand EA/Dice move on that.
So, it's not locked because you have the choice to go PvP, the only limitation is the player and not the game itself, but keeping rewards way from PvE is fair. So, in the end, it's not a choice, because if you want the full progression experience, you have to go the so-called main game mode. But PvE isn't a training mode, and BF has built his popularity partly thanks to the presence of bots and the PvE. Remember that BF is a competitive game, not a PvP game, you can compete vs IA, playing vs real players is just a preference.
