Why is there no Console Only Cross-Play?
We should get console crossplay only so me and my friend can play together without being killed every 2 seconds by some xtreme fast pcplayer.
they have unfair advantages over console players… ...
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Wondering if it possible?
It would be nice if the Next Gen version of the game would allow an option for Crossplay between consoles only (Xbox Series X/S and PS5). I know, I can just play the "Last Gen" version of the game, but then it defeats the whole purpose of purchasing the New Gen version.
Just wondering.
Problem with that is if they did that, they are already dividing the already dwindling player base that they already have. If you read through the forums so many posts already talk about cross-play off and not being able to find a match on Breakthrough/Conquest in AOW, the problem isn't server issues but rather player count for cross-play on/off. I want to say 98% of the community only plays cross-play on and that only leaves 2% for cross-play off (not even taking in consideration of the fact that there are 5 different versions of the game for that serverwise between old gen and new gen along with PC) so if they added that then good luck finding a match at any point.
- @DaddyWarBukx The alternative is that console players disable it anyways and only play with their own platforms playerbase.
I disabled it on Ps5 on day 1 and haven't felt any need to put it back on.
No problems finding games on Ps5 with crossplay disabled. I would like to play with a few people I know who are on Series X though (But I would actually rather do that on the Ps4/Xone version, if the alternative is to play against mouse and keyboard while im on a controller)- @BizzyVaping I’m on ps5 and turned off crossplay. If there was console only crossplay i would turn it back on for sure…
@BizzyVapingThe point isn't that you will/won't have issues finding matches every time, point is that it relies on people turning cross-play off to begin with, from what I have found its in excess of 90% of players leave it on without turning it off. Devs clearly designed this game around cross-play on all the time (based on the amount of connections going through cross-play alone and lag associated to that comparative to cross-play off) personally I turn it off from time to time on PC but have difficulty getting a match to start from the low numbers to begin with (mostly Breakthrough since I usually find a match on Conquest without issue and Breakthrough you will run into the same people 17 games in a row without any variation really).
@DaddyWarBukxIm not seeing any difference in lag or wait times with crossplay off on Ps5. (It'll usually take around 10 seconds to find a match)
I actually find matches faster on Ps5 with crossplay off than I do on PC with crossplay on.
That is certainly not the case for me and most people I see on Reddit and other forums. I also disabled it on PS5 day one but for the last week have found it impossible to get into a game unless I change to crossplay on and then you are paired with kbm players who absolutely dominate, it makes the game almost unplayable imo. It should be set to crossplay off by default on all consoles and crossplay with other next gen should be an option, either that or open servers from other regions with the ability to select so lobbys can be filled.
Could it be because they just can't full many seats for console players? I find that hard to believe considering how how popular BFBC2 and BF3 was, but ever since then it has been garbage TBH. If there core is mostly PC players it can only be due to there overly complicated controls, menus and 3k+$$$$ super computers needed to compete with PC players. 500$ for a PS5? Please...they know where the money is at
@DaddyWarBukxPC gamer here since the late 80’s but I prefer to play Battlefield on Xbox. Been playing BF on Xbox 360, One and X/S since BF4.
In years past the player base has ALWAYS been split into PlayStation, Xbox and PC communities in past BF titles and finding a match has never been an issue. Hell I can hop on BF4, V or BF1 on Xbox this very minute and still find a several full Conquest matches running almost 24/7. But I can queue for half an hour before I find a 2042 match on Xbox One or X/S.So I’m having a hard time believing that cross play is to blame here for not being able to find a match on PS5 or Xbox w cross play disabled.
See I have an issue with the whole argument that without PC players, console players don’t have a large enough player base to play 2042. If that’s true, then how the hell have we been able to hop on BF4, BF1 and BFV on Xbox One and get immediately into a full Conquest any time of day or night for over a decade?
- @Psychopski There are more factors that go into server population then just "I hop on older title I should find match". Time of day, Region, actual numbers of players online, access points going down, how many players actually have cross play turned off, what type of gamemode you are playing, how many players are playing that exact mode, etc... So many factors play into it and with the poor reception the game has gotten its not impossible for server population to dwindle (even something as simple as putting everyone into brand new matches rather than pooling can be an issue) what the game needs is a server browser (completely oversaturated as a complaint I know) so these things don't hinder any of the modes moving forward.
- @Psychopski that's because they did it wrong from the start. Instead of the possibility to opt out from full xplay, they should have gone xplay console only by default and opt in for full xplay with PC. Worse thing is that for xbox they removed the in game toggle, so people who would have liked to play with xplay off, but didn't know (or want to) how to turn it off on a system level, just left, which means an even smaller playerbase on xbox, and even worse on XsX where the install base is still small (it's almost impossible to find one...). On the past Bf you didn't have a choice, so the population was more stable and healthy, at least until a new BF is launched. With 2042 between the forced PC xplay, matchmaking problems, servers time out and the lower next gen installed base, you can feel a downward dynamic on the players' population on console.
I hope they can see it, and I also hope this will force them to consider console only xplay, not just by opt-in but by default.
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