Why is there no Console Only Cross-Play?
We should get console crossplay only so me and my friend can play together without being killed every 2 seconds by some xtreme fast pcplayer.
they have unfair advantages over console players… ...
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Why not have just two modes:
1 - CrossPlay off - Xbox and Playstation only (why divide as they are both controllers)
2- CrossPlay on - Xbox, Playstation, and PC
At this point, there is no way Dice can remove PC from console as that runs the risk of "Waiting for Players" death spiral for every platform.
At best, this could be implemented after Season 1 launches this summer with the resulting higher player counts. Otherwise the only other option being immediate Free to Play, which gets complicated...
@DeepSixxxx Currently Crossplay is a necessity. The game has no longer the player numbers to make matchmaking work without Crossplay.
- @kregora I'm not 100%, but I think CrossPlay off is Xbox console only, or Playstation console only. It is currently three groups of players, so making it two groups of players would increase the player numbers for "CrossPlay off by perhaps as much as 50% if you combine Playstation and Xbox Players.
At some point before Season 1 releases in "Summer", Dice might have to drop 128 player modes on console and that would force older consoles players with newer console players, and again increase the game mode player count. I think this could happen, as right now letting new console players pick 64 vs 128 is only creating more player count issues as it spreads players even thinner by having twice as many game mode options for the same game types...
Dice/EA have a inevitable player death spiral issue right now, due mainly to launching the game 6 months too early while it was near "Tech Bankruptcy" due to the impossible task of making any BF game a current fad BR game, and then attempt the second near impossible task of switching the BR game back to a classic BF game "with all hands on deck" over a short few months before launch...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"To err is human, but to persist (in the mistake) is diabolical.” ― Lucius Annaeus Seneca@DeepSixxxx BF2042 defaults to "Crossplay enabled" with an emphasis to return to that state, if you disabled it. So you need a conscious action, to disable crossplay, but every time you join a friends party, that has crossplay enabled, your preference is changed to "Crossplay enabled", and you need to take action, to disable it again, after you left the party.
I guess the current matchmake pools are
- Crossplay
- PC only
- PlayStation last gen only
- PlayStation next gen only
- XBox last gen only
- XBox next gen only
Those are used by the playlists
- AoW Breakthrough SMALL (32vs32)
- AoW Breakthrough (64vs64)
- AoW Conquest SMALL (32vs32)
- AoW Conquest (64vs64)
- Hazard Zone
- Portal 2042 TDM (16vs16)
- Portal 2042 Rush (16vs16)
- Portal Conquest of Ages (32vs32)
- Portal Rush of Ages (16vs16)
- Portal Featured Mode
- (Portal Server Browser)
And for each Region (no clue how those are created)
So yeah, each added play mode or each new kind or crossplay pool reduces the probability to fill a lobby to a point where until its ready to start a match.
And since we are not able to check the lobby state (players joined, players needed) this is very frustrating for everyone.
What we need, is an adjustment to the matchmake algorithms, that allow single platform parties, that have crossplay enabled, to also join lobbies that are for their respective platform only.
But I assume this might be a quite more complicated task, than originally planned for.
- @kregora They’ve made it a little better with the aim assist for console players, long range console players get a little advantage cause of the aim assist, close range pc players still have the upper hand because of the mouse… Its more about balancing out the advantages between the platforms at the moment, i hope they’ll get it right at some point.
so they finally did it 🙂
Got only console players in my 10 games yesterday. They changed the way matchmaking is done and it seems to populate the teams based on their platform, so I had full matches with only console players (even if I could see one or 2 PC players "lost" in some games).
- @cornybbq2 They should make two versions of the game as they did before. PC and console is two different worlds and try to merge them in a FPS-game is a recepie for failure.
I just hate playing with console-players. Their playstyle and aimassist breaks the gameplay.I'm here just to express my wish for a console-only crossplay queue. At least an optional one. I'm on Xbox Series X and I don't want to play against PC players. However, if I turn cross-play off I can't find games, so I'm forced to play against PC players. This is the main reason that is stopping me from playing the game.
