why was lis buffed?
Her TGM missile was already insanely strong and I was able to basically remove all air vehicles in the match but a 600m range with an even tighter turning speed is crazy. Hitbox increase won't even m...
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@Logger_388th wrote:Her TGM missile was already insanely strong and I was able to basically remove all air vehicles in the match but a 600m range with an even tighter turning speed is crazy. Hitbox increase won't even matter because you usually shoot it when they're distracted.
The missile had a 350 range (175 boosted). The missile is also slow (unless boosted, which uses twice the fuel and halves the range).
Smart pilots just outran the missile, easily. Lis's strength is when pilots slow to hoover to farm infantry. It takes them a bit to get up to speed from a stand still. You are choosing to give up your defense, Speed and agility, for your kills. That is your choice, not a Lis strength.
You're analogy of Lis being Insanely Strong is laughable. She gets 4 missiles every 45 seconds. Vehicle Borg Regeneration will heal more damage then a missiles does between missiles 2 and 3, and, 3 and 4.
If they are shooting when you're distracted (i.e. Hoovering over a node farming infantry), that is your fault, not a strength of the specialist. That is like whining a sniper shot you while you were in a battle with someone else.
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:
@Logger_388th wrote:Her TGM missile was already insanely strong and I was able to basically remove all air vehicles in the match but a 600m range with an even tighter turning speed is crazy. Hitbox increase won't even matter because you usually shoot it when they're distracted.
The missile had a 350 range (175 boosted). The missile is also slow (unless boosted, which uses twice the fuel and halves the range).
Smart pilots just outran the missile, easily. Lis's strength is when pilots slow to hoover to farm infantry. It takes them a bit to get up to speed from a stand still. You are choosing to give up your defense, Speed and agility, for your kills. That is your choice, not a Lis strength.
You're analogy of Lis being Insanely Strong is laughable. She gets 4 missiles every 45 seconds. Vehicle Borg Regeneration will heal more damage then a missiles does between missiles 2 and 3, and, 3 and 4.
If they are shooting when you're distracted (i.e. Hoovering over a node farming infantry), that is your fault, not a strength of the specialist. That is like whining a sniper shot you while you were in a battle with someone else.
You put that really well, bravo. Liz is annoying to be sure, and enough of them will get most pilots and vehicles. I have some sympathy for ground pounders, the tanks are papermache already so don’t need greater challenges.
- @ATFGunr 350 or 600m makes no difference from the tank perspective
1 sentinel and all the liz missiles are just harmless fireworks
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@ATFGunr350 or 600m makes no difference from the tank perspective
1 sentinel and all the liz missiles are just harmless fireworksWhich is why when I spot a tank parked, I look for the sentinel first, destroy it the target the tank
@ATFGunr wrote:
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:
@Logger_388th wrote:Her TGM missile was already insanely strong and I was able to basically remove all air vehicles in the match but a 600m range with an even tighter turning speed is crazy. Hitbox increase won't even matter because you usually shoot it when they're distracted.
The missile had a 350 range (175 boosted). The missile is also slow (unless boosted, which uses twice the fuel and halves the range).
Smart pilots just outran the missile, easily. Lis's strength is when pilots slow to hoover to farm infantry. It takes them a bit to get up to speed from a stand still. You are choosing to give up your defense, Speed and agility, for your kills. That is your choice, not a Lis strength.
You're analogy of Lis being Insanely Strong is laughable. She gets 4 missiles every 45 seconds. Vehicle Borg Regeneration will heal more damage then a missiles does between missiles 2 and 3, and, 3 and 4.
If they are shooting when you're distracted (i.e. Hoovering over a node farming infantry), that is your fault, not a strength of the specialist. That is like whining a sniper shot you while you were in a battle with someone else.
You put that really well, bravo. Liz is annoying to be sure, and enough of them will get most pilots and vehicles. I have some sympathy for ground pounders, the tanks are papermache already so don’t need greater challenges.
Your phrasing of “enough of them” implies teamwork. Lis and anyone with a recoil can do the same.
the foundation of this game is teamwork. 2tanks vs 1 Lis is no reason to complain that tanks need a nerf.
EDIT: I’m not implying you’re asking for a tank nerf. It was a comparative set statement. I apologize for the phrasing
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:
@ATFGunr wrote:
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:
@Logger_388th wrote:Her TGM missile was already insanely strong and I was able to basically remove all air vehicles in the match but a 600m range with an even tighter turning speed is crazy. Hitbox increase won't even matter because you usually shoot it when they're distracted.
The missile had a 350 range (175 boosted). The missile is also slow (unless boosted, which uses twice the fuel and halves the range).
Smart pilots just outran the missile, easily. Lis's strength is when pilots slow to hoover to farm infantry. It takes them a bit to get up to speed from a stand still. You are choosing to give up your defense, Speed and agility, for your kills. That is your choice, not a Lis strength.
You're analogy of Lis being Insanely Strong is laughable. She gets 4 missiles every 45 seconds. Vehicle Borg Regeneration will heal more damage then a missiles does between missiles 2 and 3, and, 3 and 4.
If they are shooting when you're distracted (i.e. Hoovering over a node farming infantry), that is your fault, not a strength of the specialist. That is like whining a sniper shot you while you were in a battle with someone else.
You put that really well, bravo. Liz is annoying to be sure, and enough of them will get most pilots and vehicles. I have some sympathy for ground pounders, the tanks are papermache already so don’t need greater challenges.
Your phrasing of “enough of them” implies teamwork. Lis and anyone with a recoil can do the same.
the foundation of this game is teamwork. 2tanks vs 1 Lis is no reason to complain that tanks need a nerf.
EDIT: I’m not implying you’re asking for a tank nerf. It was a comparative set statement. I apologize for the phrasing
No tank nerf needed for sure, I think a buff is necessary. I’d also like them to drive like tanks and not moon buggies. You’re also right in that I was talking about teamwork. I did a round of breakthrough once where at least 5 players were Liz defending, and nothing could get close with them working together. BF was always about teamwork, a team that does that will win every round. Individually Liz is garbage… but you get enough of them and you could really roll over any enemy vehicles. I could have been more clear too 😉 All good.
