why was lis buffed?
Her TGM missile was already insanely strong and I was able to basically remove all air vehicles in the match but a 600m range with an even tighter turning speed is crazy. Hitbox increase won't even m...
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@Logger_388thInsane TGM buff is the worst part about this update.
When playing ground vehicles, you were essentially harassed by players you cannot see, fight and you don't know where they are. You get shot from over the hill, behind the cover, under the roof and there's nothing you can do about it. Now factor in there's multiple Liz players shooting rockets your way at any given moment in these wide open maps. And that was before the update, now they'll get even more maneuverability and even more range. And then the same people complain tanks are "camping". APS won't save you unless the reload time is ridiculously low.
Oh and don't forget now they're bringing back Javelin, tracers and Rao's insta-soflam, what a fun time for ground vehicles.
I am on console and I really don't understand why Lis ll be buffed.
It's already an easy mode to destroy helis.
@shanatak wrote:I am on console and I really don't understand why Lis ll be buffed.
It's already an easy mode to destroy helis.
I just want to confirm, this is the video you really want to support as proof?
You consider these pilots as skilled flyers?
- @Padding_Ur_StatsBy this metric, nerf parachutes, the AM40 and C5 because you can kill with them. Those pilots were average at best 🤣
@shanatak wrote:I am on console and I really don't understand why Lis ll be buffed.
It's already an easy mode to destroy helis.
You have 45,000+ kills and 320hr+ with the Nightbird. Do you think your opinion on this matter may be biased?
What percentage of these easy mode rockets are you dodging in a typical match? 90%? 95%?
@AngrySquid270 wrote:
@shanatak wrote:I am on console and I really don't understand why Lis ll be buffed.
It's already an easy mode to destroy helis.
You have 45,000+ kills and 320hr+ with the Nightbird. Do you think your opinion on this matter may be biased?
What percentage of these easy mode rockets are you dodging in a typical match? 90%? 95%?
Yeah I'm sure all the crops here that have been farmed to hell by air vehicles are not biased either.
@mimi0xi wrote:@Logger_388thInsane TGM buff is the worst part about this update.
When playing ground vehicles, you were essentially harassed by players you cannot see, fight and you don't know where they are. You get shot from over the hill, behind the cover, under the roof and there's nothing you can do about it.Like when a tank rains down fire from their starting zone on a node halfway across the map
Now factor in there's multiple Liz players shooting rockets your way at any given moment in these wide open maps.
NERF TEAMWORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that was before the update, now they'll get even more maneuverability and even more range.
From their crappy mobility and poor range.
And then the same people complain tanks are "camping". APS won't save you unless the reload time is ridiculously low.
Tanks are camping. Remember, Lis has a 20 second cooldown after the second rocket. If youre truly asking DICE to nerf Teamwork, why dont you just ask to be invulnerable?
Oh and don't forget now they're bringing back Javelin, tracers and Rao's insta-soflam, what a fun time for ground vehicles.
Looks like Pilots are going to have to exhibit knowledge and skill. How dare DICE expect that of the player base.
Of course, in all your post, you said nothing of the farming of infantry with unlimited rockets, and ammo. You said nothing about that it takes 4 or more missiles to destroy your tank. Gee I wonder why?
@Padding_Ur_Stats Your arguments are kinda ridiculous. When a tank kills you, it had a direct line of sight. You can see the tank and the tank can see you. Same cannot be said for Lis' missile, it just starts appearing in the sky somewhere from across the map.
"Tanks are camping" And here it is lol. You fail to understand why this is happening. Most tank players don't engage in pushing because there's no incentive and they have no tools to counter overwhelming amount of anti-tank spam in 2042.
In BFV you could actually push the front line with a tank because that game had a healthy vehicle-infantry balance. It's not that BFV tanks were overpowered, it's that both tanks and infantry had tools of similar effectiveness at their disposal. I know because I mained both the assault class and also played lots of tanks. And that was a game with no vehicle regen and manual repairing.But the camping argument doesn't make sense first and foremost. If a tank is camping, that means the Lis missile is worthless, you know that right? An actual camping tank will put Irish APS in front and deny every single missile. So what exactly is the goal here? To punish tanks which are not camping? Lis rockets only counter moving tanks (which means they are not camping), so buffed Lis missile will push even more tank players to go camp on the outskirts of the maps instead of spending the entire game shooting at missiles in the sky. Do you not see the irony in this? You are actively advocating for even more camping tanks!
Of course, in all your post, you said nothing of the farming of infantry with unlimited rockets, and ammo. You said nothing about that it takes 4 or more missiles to destroy your tank. Gee I wonder why?
Another ridiculous argument, there's only a handful of active vehicles at any given moment and heavy vehicles should naturally take multiple missiles to kill.
There's 64 players on opposing team most of which have recoilless, TGMs, homing grenades, C5, land mines, hacks, SOFLAM, anti-material rifles (often a combination of multiple AT items per player) and also the same number of vehicles as the first team that fight with one another...
@mimi0xi wrote:@Padding_Ur_StatsYour arguments are kinda ridiculous. When a tank kills you, it had a direct line of sight. You can see the tank and the tank can see you. Same cannot be said for Lis' missile, it just starts appearing in the sky somewhere from across the map.
Bull Pucky. Tanks have radar and AOE damage. I have been killed by tanks in a ravine half a map away. Tanks sit in their starting zone raining down the cannon and gun fire across the map.
"Tanks are camping" And here it is lol. You fail to understand why this is happening. Most tank players don't engage in pushing because there's no incentive and they have no tools to counter overwhelming amount of anti-tank spam in 2042.
I do understand. And youre wrong. See Hawkeye's post.
In BFV you could actually push the front line with a tank because that game had a healthy vehicle-infantry balance. It's not that BFV tanks were overpowered, it's that both tanks and infantry had tools of similar effectiveness at their disposal. I know because I mained both the assault class and also played lots of tanks. And that was a game with no vehicle regen and manual repairing.I haven't played previous games. That being said, this is 2042.
But the camping argument doesn't make sense first and foremost. If a tank is camping, that means the Lis missile is worthless, you know that right? An actual camping tank will put Irish APS in front and deny every single missile. So what exactly is the goal here? To punish tanks which are not camping? Lis rockets only counter moving tanks (which means they are not camping), so buffed Lis missile will push even more tank players to go camp on the outskirts of the maps instead of spending the entire game shooting at missiles in the sky. Do you not see the irony in this? You are actively advocating for even more camping tanks!
Incorrect again. Ive assisted in taking out tanks with sentinels, walls etc. That being said, in your earlier reply you said they had "no tools to counter overwhelming amount of anti-tank spam in 2042.", yet, here are some tools. Let us not change the facts to suit our rebuttals please.
Another ridiculous argument, there's only a handful of active vehicles at any given moment and heavy vehicles should naturally take multiple missiles to kill.
There's 64 players on opposing team most of which have recoilless, TGMs, homing grenades, C5, land mines, hacks, SOFLAM, anti-material rifles (often a combination of multiple AT items per player) and also the same number of vehicles as the first team that fight with one another...
Got it,. when it comes to vehicles, nerf teamwork. Great Rebuttal.
